TYNE Class Lifeboat build

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I reckon, that Plastic Kits produce models of perfection, but are frowned upon for some reason

It`s a funny old world

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I don't go to shows to take home dust catchers Ashley……….

my models catch enough as it is……….just go to shows for the pure pleasure I get seeing others looking at my boats and vise versa.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

since my rear grating for the fore cabin came, I have soldiered on with making all the fittings for the cabins which will be sprayed the orange of the boat.



I started with the aft cabin, and have recently finished the major parts that needed to be fitted ready for those all important layers of paint.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

it now came to the detailing of the main cabin and the fixed parts that are to be painted with the cabin all the same colour…..Orange.

and the first parts were the main recessed locker covers for the fuel fillers and goose neck vents, which are set into the cabin both port and starboard.

I do like a bit of fiddling now and then,

and the covers to the filler caps and goose necks in the recesses of the main cabin couldn't have been more fiddley.

the only way I was going to tackle it was by using plasticard, and a delve into my large supply of plastic sprue in many thicknesses and widths.

and the build of both the frames and the grills began, and amazingly they came out right.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

so!!!, I made the grills for the covers to the fuel fillers and vents………….but they are no good if I cant put anything behind them………and as they were, they were just going on a blank "wall",

so some surgery was needed to make that recess to put the vents and fillers in to.

there needed to be holes cut in the sides of he cabin, and cut outs in both the inner cabin tray and the combing which the cabin and interior fit into and on top.

finally there needed to be two "lockers" [for want of a better word] made from plasticard , the size of the grill frames that I made yesterday to fit into the holes to be cut out.

all things were reliant upon the size of the grill frames, and so these were marked out on the sides of the cabin and masked off. they were then drilled and reamed out, trimmed and filed up to shape and size and then used to make the lockers.

I was in fact surprised just how easy the process wentm and with a little trimming up afterwards of the combings around the hull access, the whole thing went well.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

started putting the small detailing parts onto the main cabin and hull this evening.

cut out the apertures for the LED's behind the deck lights, the water outlets both port, starboard and aft, the hydraulic ram outlets and the surrounds to the recess for the water, diesel and air vents, and the guides to the safety rails which run along the fop corner of the cabin.

just off now to make the retaining bracket and stop for the boat hooks port and starboard.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

it had now come to the point wher almost all fittings had been attached to the main cabin, ready for spraying orange, and so

it had come the time to re-attach the section of the roof that I had cut out, in able to gain access to the interior whilst making the interior tray.

first I cut some cross beams from 2mm plasticard to support the roof and also glue to the sides just above the line of the window frames

the cross beams were drilled to enable a purchase between the plasticard and the grp cabin.

I first glued the beams to pre markerd positions within the cabin with 30m epoxy, and left for a couple of hours or so.

once set I used epoxy again and glued the plasticard beams to the cabin rims, held with spring clamps, and left to set and cure over night.

tomorrow I will glass and resin the insides with grp polyester resin and [probably] surface tissue to seal it all up, before filling from the outside with p40 filler.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

This evening I have just stippled in some J Cloth squares into the gaps between the cross beams to hold the cabin top in permanently .I used grp polyester resin to stipple in and cement the j cloth to the cabin top.

I mixed more than I needed of resin and catalyst, because I also needed to fill in the keel recess at the bow so that I could drill the two ruffle holes at the bow keelson, so that the hull, once holes were drilled, wouldn't leak.

finally I used a little of the surplus resin to paint the aft combing where, after sanding to fit the cabin top, the gelcoat was removed and had left bare chopped strand matting. I sealed the "open wounds" with resin.

i'm just now for the resin to set and cure before doing anything further on either the hull or the cabin.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

the roof panel has glued in place and set well,

so tonight I gave the joint between the two a copious filling of p40 filler to both fill the gap in the roof and also to level it all up. tomorrow I will get the sander out and run it over the top to level it all up.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Welcome back Neil

Your attention to detail is pleasure to scrutinise!

Could do with a few external shots though, to get things into perspective, old chap

Bob…….Another old chap

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

after I've sanded it off bob, i'll take some later this afternoon.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Here you go Bob!

[Fred wooleyParticipant @fredwooley76212]

Wow that looks good you going to be very busy sanding that to be painted loads of Aerosols going to be needed to do it so it looks right

Fred

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Many thanks Neil

Sorry Neil, we need a one metre rule alongside, to get a feel for the model size?

Or…..Your good self?

Bob

[Fred wooleyParticipant @fredwooley76212]

Reading your posts Neil -Howard Pritchard Who is this Dave Stavros Jones Character does he have his own business spraying models boats and does he have a website with any pics of his wok

Fred

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Bob Abell on 22/08/2020 17:52:13:

Many thanks Neil

Sorry Neil, we need a one metre rule alongside, to get a feel for the model size?

Or…..Your good self?

Bob

its an inch short of four feet, Bob……47" long………..quite a big brute.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

he's a good friend of mine Fred……….lives in deepest wales……….but I don't hold that against him….

he's been a professional car body repairer and sprayer for many many years, and good at it too. he sprayed my Shannon for me 2 years ago. he does now and then take on spraying commissions so I believe and his work is top notch.

[Fred wooleyParticipant @fredwooley76212]

Those look really awsome how do i contact him is he on here or is he on any other forum

 

Fred

Edited By Fred wooley on 22/08/2020 19:15:46

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

don't think he's on here Fred….he is on a couple of model lifeboat forums on Facebook……one is called RNLI RC LIFEBOATS and the other is model lifeboat enthusiasts.

but you'll have to request membership…….but the admin usually accept anyone unless they think or suspect the person is a scammer. usually that shows in the profile….dead give away is they have hundreds of "friends" and member of also hundreds of forums nothing to do with modelling or where they usually try selling products nothing to do with modelling at all…..can usually spot them a mile off

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

funnily enough I rejected someone tonight on one of those forums as admin

…3796 friends, 128 other forums, none of which were either that which I could read as was in Arabic, or none model boating jenre, and yet was a serial poster of adverts on other forums,

so was blocked from joining!.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Neil, for the Feast of Lifeboats display

You could be called a Lifeboat Junkie?

I was invited to have a trip on the Holyhead Lifeboat, many years ago, but had to decline due to my self survival instinct. Can`t remember the reason for the offer

Your latest model looks quite dated and looks like one step up from the boats with a wooden shed at each end?

Would that be a sensible assessment?

I like the quality of the build, very business like

Bob ……..Out on a shout

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Bob Abell on 23/08/2020 08:08:22:

Thank you, Neil, for the Feast of Lifeboats display

You could be called a Lifeboat Junkie?

I was invited to have a trip on the Holyhead Lifeboat, many years ago, but had to decline due to my self survival instinct. Can`t remember the reason for the offer

Your latest model looks quite dated and looks like one step up from the boats with a wooden shed at each end?

Would that be a sensible assessment?

I like the quality of the build, very business like

Bob ……..Out on a shout

you should have gone on that trip Bob, there is nothing more exhilarating than standing on the deck of a lifeboat under full song, and you wouldn't get a safer boat to sail on. Nowadays, there are so many HSR reasons and forms to fill that one never gets a chance these days unless its a corporate day aimed at local businesses for donations to the local station.

in their day the TYNE was a very advanced boat, and other than the inflatable ribs was the fastest boat in the fleet at 18 -20 knots. The first called City of London 47-001, paid for by an appeal in London cost £420,000 and went on station at Selsey in 1982, but were light years ahead of the old double ended classic lifeboats of the earlier years.

they TYNES are all retired now and sold out of service having been superseded by such boats as the TRENT, SEVERN, TAMAR and the latest boat, the water jet drive SHANNON class lifeboat as seen in the photos above. these boats just mentioned ate all capable of doing 25 knots or a little more if pushed.

The Shannon costs £2.5 million to build, BUT  the best sounding lifeboat ever is without doubt, the TYNE class lifeboat with her twin V6 two stroke Detroit diesel engines, as used basically in the Sherman tank of WW2.

IF YOU have youtube, just listen to this, the final trip of the last RNLI TYNE LIFEBOAT leaving station last year.those engines are the sound of God waking the world up with a corus of heavenly music. 

 

 

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 23/08/2020 12:32:38

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Nice video, Neil

What happens to the obsolete lifeboats?

It seems a shame to scrap them

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Bob Abell on 23/08/2020 13:33:22:

Nice video, Neil

What happens to the obsolete lifeboats?

It seems a shame to scrap them

Bob

the lifeboats are never scrapped Bob………but sold out of service to other lifesaving associations, pilot boats, company enterprises, forein countries as SAR boats ..CHINA and ICELAND and AUSTRALIA being countries buying them……NEDLOYD ship these lifeboats to other countries using them for SAR free of charge as deck cargo on their container ships. our own Tyne was bought by a group up in malaig and Oban, Scotland and is part charter and part "Ambulance" launch for medivac purposes in the outer Hebridean islands when the weather is too rough for helicopter evacuation. one Tyne has been bought by the Royal navy and is down in Portsmouth or Plymouth [ cant remember which] and others just sold for private ownership….the one at Galgate near Lancaster is privately owned, and a Tyne will cost you around 80 – 120000 quid…..but incredibly well looked after in the RNLI

THE NEXT GROUP to be sold off will be the smaller Mersey class lifeboat, as these are now also being retired from fleet, and quickly.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I started off the day well with the first half of some moulds for small fittings for the Tyne and a few generic ones for the Mersey to cast. by lunchtime I was ready to mould the second half of them.

I couldn't find the Vaseline for the release agent and so tried "painting" on to the half of rubber already moulded some ordinary vegetable oil used for frying………what an absolute wizard of a trick……….worked even better than Vaseline.

however this is where the euphoria was burst and the bubble blown….. I ran out of silicone rubber halfway through the pour, and so my last mould was only half finished,

ok so I thought, I'll order some from my usual supplier on next day delivery………… "sorry, but the shop is closed for holidays" came the answer…….sod me!

i hope that they are just on holiday and not ceased trading………as that mould contains all my stations for moulding.

i had to contend myself with making the toe guard looped rails on the gunwale edges of the deck………..not the best of days, i'm afraid.

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