TYNE Class Lifeboat build

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Sorry Neil but its Colin's fault for postulating the changes in reality that has taken over your thread.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

you are nuts, Paul…………but I a nice way, lol.

and chat away, you guys………I don't mind being hijacked, lol………..its a pleasant change now and then. 

 

 

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 18/07/2020 22:28:56

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

You needed a touch of light relief, Neil

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Neil

You are exactly right about it being nuts and trust a teacher to be the one that points it out.

Z space has entirely the wrong polarity for the storage of electrical equipment.

Paul

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I received some interior shots of the Tyne class lifeboat today off Mike Pendlebury this afternoon, which showed that I needed to do a couple of small corrections to the fore part of the cabin.

namely the port side where the W/T door fits. this needed to be extended sideways, and an insert into the centre console needed to be added for the compass binnacle to sit.

the port side was extended with ply, and the insert was made from plasticard

whilst I was waiting for glue to set, I started on the W/T door down to the bow survivors cabin.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

watertight door now complete for the forrard bulkhead.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

one of the points that I was avoiding was the attachment of stanchion, to triangular bracket to the foot that attaches to the deck. it would be a simple job to make it and the foot all in brass,but i'm getting older, my fingers are full of arthritis and I haven't the patience I had ten or even five years ago.I wanted a quick fix that from the general public or a rivet counter at 10 paces couldn't quibble about.A plan was hatched.

some 10 years ago I made two Watson and one Barnett lifeboats as a "job lot". I turned the stanchions from brass, and also made separate triangular feet for if I ever wanted to make a lifeboat that didn't use feet to attach to the toe/kick boards.

I had them somewhere ready cast in white metal and in resin…….and miracle of miracles I found them this afternoon, but could only find one white metal 2 ball stanchion.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

but not to worry, I have the rubber moulds somewhere to cast those stanchions with feet already fixed from polyurethane none shatter resin…….enough for my own boat, and then also for Dave Stavros Jones MERSEY, and for clumsy Mick French's Mersey also.

Then what I will do is cast a few more for my boat, join them to the "foot" that I have made, and recast sets for the Tyne class lifeboatSpeaking of the feet, I made these from circular abs tubing with one part cut off to make a flat surface to fit to the deck, and with it cast as one with the stanchion and triangular fixing bracket which goes into a slot cut into the top of the foot, I think they will be sturdy enough even for clumsy me.

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 21/07/2020 21:34:51

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Ingenious, Neil

You`re saved again

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

just little brain storms Bob, when you have been looking for a solution, then passed on to something else and whilst using something, you think of it coming in for a totally different use.

I just love scratch building to get the brain working.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I have just been sent the first images of the TYNE flying bridge grating, that my RNLI friend, Alistair has drawn for 3D printing and has had a pre production example made from the drawn programme.

I will be picking them up next week and have a dry fit around the cabin rear end to make sure it all fits.

looking forward to that, as it looks amazing, very delicate but absolutely amazing…….I could never have produced this in a year of Sundays with plasticard.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Looks very nice, Neil

3D Printing is definitely the way ahead all right

I wish I was 10 years younger, I would have made great use of the possibilities

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I have been chatting with my mate Dave Stavros Jones about the rear most "hatch" that I cut out to make the holders for the trim tab servos and the rudder tubes. and once the boat is ready for painting, all these working parts will have been secured into the boat hopefully on a permanent footing.then the "hatch" will be redundant.

so the question was, do I glue it back in place permanently, or make into a removeable hatch for future maintenance.well, this afternoon my daughter handed me a broken plastic photo montage frame. and on that frame, the individual photos were held in with little screw down catches.

the idea came to me, that as the screws are countersunk, and screw into the little black tabs, I could use these to hold my hatch into place by gluing the tab to the screw once it had been placed onto the hatch.and when turned they will lip over the thin frame I am gluing in around the opening, and then sprayed with textured paint over the screws once the hatch is held in place…a simple job of camouflage,

well that's the theory and the first part of the job has been put into practice, the support lip for the hatch cover has been glued in place on the long lengths, and am waiting for them to set.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Last night I prepared the clips for securing the access hatch that allows me to get at the rudders, servos and links for the trim tab rams.Today I fitted them to the hatch, and tried the contraption out…..EURICA…..IT WORKED!!!.

So once I have fettled the hull and got it ready with certain fittings for painting, I will lock the hatch in place and it can be sprayed in situ with the Linoleum aged iron textured paint, so that it fills the gap between deck and hatch.

I will leave it this way for if I ever need to raise the hatch again I can slice down into the paint with a knife and just lift it out………..hopefully I never will, but that is the contingency set into motion to do so if needed,

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

So there it is………..surprising what use can be made of junk to be thrown out.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Neil, how did you manage to drill all those tiny holes,,so straight and close together?

I note you`ve done a similar thing previously and must be a very laborious exercise

You could make a metal strip with the holes predrilled and use it as a master template for any hole size etc

Just an idea

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

normally I just drill them and join the holes to cut out apertures such as windows and port holes,,,,,,,,as its easy to use the side of the drill bit to cut out amall area such as this………

however I had a large area of roof to cut out straightly, and a friend told me to get hold of a dremmel attachment with small circular cutter……….

i'm not short of what I've got, and bought a big set of them years ago………..so have been using that to cut out holes recently…………that hatch was cut out within the first couple of weeks of starting the model……..but the hole in the roof is much straighter, lol.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

as not all of the fittings for the Tyne are available through macs mouldings or any other manufacturer for that matter, I had a think last night.

I decided to do some myself.The fiddly little bits that take time…….two hours here, two there…….all add up, and so decided to make some moulds for them myself.

First one would be the intricate and inordinately time consuming rear of main cabin grating, which is away at the printers at the moment and ready for a dry fit on the cabin.Next I made the small vents for the aft cabin, and the two larger vents for the main cabin.Onwards I made the deck tool box which is attached to the starboard angled front surface of the cabin.

And finally for today, the hatch attached to the front of cabin mounting.There are more that I am planning as I get to them, but have yet to make the masters for. However, those shown are not yet finished or ready for casting…..they are in first stage of development with more detail to add before putting in to rubber moulds.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Very nice realistic, Neil

Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I made a few more bits today, and finished some off for moulding.Firstly I cut out the centres for the bases of the seats for the inner cabin.Then I turned to the rear quick release and warping/veering bollards at the stern of the boat.They were slightly curved to follow the contour of the transom, and so made the bases from obeche.I turned the two bollards from brass rod, and impressed the "brass" sheathing that runs along the length of the bollard, by pressing a sharpened pencil into the wood, for both the "brass" itself and the screw sunken heads in the top that hold the brass sheet onto the base.Once a few coats of sanding sealer have been put onto it, and rubbed down before moulding, and then painted, they should look realistic enough with the imprints showing up.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

I try not to throw anything away that I find, as one day I might find a use for it.

a point in question tonight when I was making the swan neck vent on the fore end of the main cabin.

it has a grill on the bottom of the downward tube on the lifeboat, and I thought……..somewhere I have two of those that will fit the bill…….

amazingly I found them both, but only needed one.

using different diameters of tubing, a brass rod to support the inner tubing from collapsing on the bend when heating and bending, I started with the main tube, getting it to the right angle.

it was then just a matter of building it all together.

might not be exactly to the boat, but at 30 paces, it looks fine.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hi Neil

I`ve got a workshop full of boxes of bits and pieces and dare not throw any of it out

There nothing more pleasing than rummaging around and finding that vital little oddment that fits the bill!

Bob

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Neil. The attention to detail you are putting in goes on and on!

Like Bob, I never throw ‘owt away, just in case!

Ashley

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

we are a hobby of hoarders lol.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

two more small but vital fittings almost ready for the moulding rubber

the two main towing bollards, which are linked to a "Y" tow line, feeding through the stern "gobeye" fairlead to the casualty.

it will be the stern and bow gobeye's that I will attack next.

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