Spot the missing workshop

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

You could apply insulation to the exterior of the roof Link when fitted neatly this product is efficient and fairly unobtrusive.

Laying it directly onto the roof without any further decorative finishes might not be exactly to specification but being gray in colour it does look reasonable on shed / workshop walls and roofs.

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 04/06/2018 19:04:43

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Thanks for that, Paul, but my mind is made up, at least for the time being. You and others have remarked that I do carry around a considerable amount of "personal insulation" so until they have to pry my cold, dead fingers from my soldering iron – or conversely decant my melted remains into a large tub for removal – I shall stick with my trusty fan-heater. It's not as if I'm moving in there permanently; I can always escape back into the house!

DM

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Could try that silver bubble wrap type insulation. This can be pinned to the roof/sides internally between the joists. It is supposed to be quite effective, and of course is very thin, so you don't lose space. Having silver in the roof will also aid lighting levels.

If nothing else, having the roof insulated makes a big difference in summer, keeping the interior a bit cooler.

Ashley

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Ashley

Check out the link I posted above.

DM

[harry smith 1Participant @harrysmith1]

Hi Dave

Your main loss of heat via the roof next is the walls, then the windows and last the floor.

The more you insulate these the more you save in heating cost.

Also in summer much cooler.

Lighting go for LED lights, 5 Watt ones are better than 50 Watt Halogen.

Of course if we could save the hot air from some of the guys from model boat meetings we would not have a power bill !!!

Harry

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I really do appreciate the concern shown for my welfare by so many folk but I do already know how I would insulate the place should it prove necessary.
On the subject of lighting the first thing I did when we moved into the new house was ditch all of the ordinary incandescent/halogen bulbs and replace them with LED. The workshop will have two of these **LINK** – we have one in the kitchen, replacing four crummy 60W spotlights, and it's brilliant in every sense of the word.

Dave M

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

I presume that these lamps are not coming from China

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Paul

These days EVERYTHING electrical seems to come from China, but it's not always dubious in quality. The supplier I used is a wholesaler based in Weston-Super-Mare and their delivery is very quick.

The original Chinese lighting system is a fire hazard, as well you should know!

DM

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Dave – I'm with you on the LED lights. When they first came out they weren't too good, limited types and designs and were pretty expensive (like a lot of things) but they are very good now and given their life expectancy, good value. The lack of heat is a big plus as well.

I've replaced most in the house, including two decorative square ones replacing round double D ones and they are fantastic.

Been looking to fit a couple of fluorescent sized ones in the garage as the single low-energy one is slow to reach full strength and doesn't give enough light.

Chris

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

UPDATE – This arrived at 6.50am today.

The Lads are coming next Friday to put it all together. BTW the man from Tiger Sheds said that I won't need any insulation. We'll have to see if he's right.

DM

[CookieParticipant @cookie15923]

I bet you can't wait Dave ,

Dave

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Nope – but I've waited nearly five months to get to this stage so another week won't hurt too much. Just seeing the 'parcel' sitting in the drive lifts my heart!
DM

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Why wait Dave, all you need is a really big allen key and a box of expletives…

Glad to see things are moving at last, there will be no limits to what you can produce this winter.

Colin

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

That's very good news indeed, Dave!

For my part, if there's one thing that really gets on my nerves, it's having to wait for delivery of whatever it might be — any new toy, once I've decided to get it, I want it yesterday! I currently have my two parcels from Byrnes Model Machines going through customs clearance, and keep checking the UPS app for potential progress about once every 30 minutes or so …

Anyway, all my best wishes for next week's Jigsaw Assembly Party to be a great success!

Mattias

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Hmmmm…looks suspiciously like a new boat to me….

Ashely

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Ashley
It's made of cedar wood, not hardboard .

Matthias
I was seriously thinking about inviting the family round for a "cabin-painting + barbeque" party. Painting it is going to be one big job.
I've had a shufti at the two machines you have on their way from USA – 'envy' isn't a big enough word! BTW I've saved that bottle you kindly gave me to celebrate finishing the workshop. I think JD may be a bit too expensive as from today. Thanks a bundle, Donald.

DM

[Tim CooperParticipant @timcooper90034]

Dave

I thought you would be putting the log cabin together yourself. It looks easy on the website!

Good to be made of Cedar. My shed / workshop is cedar and still going strong after 36 years.

Tim

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Tim
Maybe, but I know my limitations. It's a lot less stress to leave it to somebody else a lot younger & fitter and who knows what they're doing.
DM

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Dave,

I know you have had plenty of unsolicited advice but if I might throw my twopennyworth in…

My house, as with all the others on this estate features western red cedar cladding. In the 38 years we have been here I have only used SOLVENT based woodstain and it looks as good as when we first moved in. It is a very thin spirit based high VOC formula which really soaks deep into the wood for maximum weather protection and fade resistance.

Most of the stuff you see in the DiY places is 'water based' which doesn't penetrate to anything like the same extent and contains waxes for water repellence which sit on the surface and eventually peel after a few years wherea the solvent based stuff can just be sloshed on again to rejuvenate it every 10 years or so.

The solvent based stain is a bit smelly when initially applied until the volatiles evaporate and contribute to global warming and it does tend to splash around as it is such a thin liquid but I still reckon it is well worth it. It looks much better too as the finish is totally matt unlike the sheen you get with much of the waterbased stuff.

Apologies if you already know all this.

Colin

[Tim CooperParticipant @timcooper90034]

Dave

I have to agree with you about erecting the cabin. I am sure that it's not quite as easy as it looks.

Tim

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Colin
Points well taken but it has to be green. I have no choice in the matter. I've bought some Cuprinol Ultimate Wood Treatment and I used it on the garden shed which we bought for Liz's tools. It's a vast improvement on the old water-based stuff we used to see [Ronseal Fence-life springs to mind] and the water just beads up and runs off it after a couple of coats. It also gets excellent user reviews – if you can believe them. Cedar apparently has its own internal oils and resins which help greatly with repelling water, so I reckon I should be OK for five years or so. After all, I have little choice!

Tim
The guy who delivered it says that the joints are all CNC-machined and very closely fitting, so experience in putting them together will make the job a lot quicker for everyone.

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Dave,

Green, oh dear but needs must I suppose. Yes, Cedar is inherently rot resistant.

What colour will the inside be?

Colin

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Colin

I have a sneaky preview of the interior.

Paul

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

No Paul,

It's one of these depending on how much money is left in the budget…

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Colin

I do like the pond in the cave.

Paul

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