not really floating !!!

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Going back to 2009 and Ashleys Magnificent Submarine ,13/7/2009 to be exact . Ashley has said it was from a set of plans by Hal Harrison . I have a great friend who is an ex marine and wants to build a sub so if any one can kindly either send ,me a lin k to these plans or has a set trhey can donate i would be extremley grateful as my friend has been through a rough time and i dont trhinbk i need to say more on this mater , and boating helps him out no end as he finds it greatly relaxing and takes his ,mind off of things . So my felow boaters and submariners i ask very kindly for your help .

Many thanks

Andy

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Andy

I feel sure this plan is still available from My Hobby Store listing?

Hopefully, anyway

Bob

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Hello Bob thanks for the reply .Speaking of Sherlock Holmes where did the phrase " the games afoot" come from ??

Let me give you a clue Which play , what number ????

Author ????

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Andy…..You do ask difficult questions!

I've got no idea, old boy

Bob

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

You will be very supoprisewd bob it was William Shakespere , author , anfd the play was Henry V from part of the famous speech " let us fill this gap with our english dead "

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Andy

Cry God for Harry, England, and Saint George!

The most famous speech from Henry V it still stiffens the sinews even though I've heard it many times.

But Andy can you tell me what the breach refers to and what historical event is taking place.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;

Paul

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Ah now yiou have asked paul , i have always belived it was from Agincourt but not sure . I do know that the famous 2 finger salute was intended as an insult to the french archers and also it was the Welsh bowmen that won the day . I certainly would not want to be on the reciving end of that as they could put , i think , 3 or 4 arrowsin the air per minute so that would be abot a 1000 arrows screaming down at you , SOD THAT FOR A GAME OF SOLDIERS !!!!! and even if you got wounded you could die of blood poisoning as the archers went to toilet where they stood , yuk !!!!!

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Andy

The breach refers to the city walls of Harfleur (battle of Agincourt)

The two fingered salute at Agincourt being linked to fingers being cut off is something of a myth and there are a lot of reasons to doubt its veracity. According to anthropologists, hostile gestures involving jerking movements of parts of the hand or forearm are found in many, if not most, cultures.

There's no record of captured bowmen being mutilated at Agincourt, or elsewhere; if the practice had been widespread enough to launch the V-sign, such records would surely exist, from a time when all

aspects of warfare were closely scrutinised and chronicled.

Paul

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Hi Paul , I bow to your better knowlledge and i always thought that the two figer salute was true .

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Its a shame as the legend makes a really good story.

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Just like an honest polotician , a good story . But lets not go there !!!!!!!!!!

Any way started back on my frigate and having a fresh look at it i have found a few areas where i have gone wrong and am sorting them out , Odd isnt it that you put something down for a while and when you come back to it you find a whole host of little things you never seen before !!!

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

An honest politician

Now that has to be the ultimate example of a contradiction in terms

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Many thanks to ashley i have recived the plans and write up today and wil pass them onto my friend in the near future . many thaks to all who have offerd and given advice on this subject and i will more than likely be calling on you all in the not to distant future , many thanks to all Andy

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