British Brig 1863

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Plan completed today of a British brig of 1863. Brigs had only two masts, and were square-rigged on both. This one was 256 tons, with a length of 108.3 feet, and a beam of 24.1 feet.

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

Bob,

Pretty as a picture, she is!

Is she a named ship, or is it more of a generic depiction?

Mattias

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Mattias

It is the British brig Admirable. Actually, I put the named sail plan on further down this section, but forgot I had done so. The reason for this, was that I actually completed the deck plan earlier today, but it will not be posted because it will be incorporated in my writing activities for eventual publication in a book.

Bob

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Bob – as you mentioned on the other thread, you don't realise how deep these ships are below the waterline until you see a complete side view.

As others have said, lovely drawings – I take it you are using a CAD/drawing program to produce them? It's very time consuming producing drawings of this quality isn't it.

Chris

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Bob

Any comments on the size of the rudder?

They look very small, compared to a model's rudder

I do realise that they are normally that small

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Bob

Any chance of showing a typical cross section, please?

Was a catamaran format ever tried?

Sorry…….Probably a daft question?

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

The rudders must have been adequate that size, or they would have made them bigger. Can't imagine catamarans would have been any good for carrying thousands of tons of cargo. Here is a cross section of a steel square rigger, they were all very similar. Note how deep the hull is in the sea with the waterline well up.

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Regarding the plans. No, I do not use CAD. I have never even tried it, and it sounds rather too complcated and expensive for me anyway. Probably take me years to learn to use it and I don't have that sort of patience!

I just draw them on large sheets of white card, then photograph them with a normal digital camera and colour them in with photoshop.   The long plastic curve is a dressmakers curve obtained from Ebay and it is especially useful for ship plans.

Bob

 

Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:59

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thanks for the Cross Section layout, Bob………..Date?

Very interesting and nostalgic too

I notice that there is no main keel as a starting point, which comes as a surprise?

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

There is a keel, it is sticking out in the middle of the hull! The hull is steel barque of 2,300 tons (1890s) so the keel is not as big as a wooden keel, but it is still there!

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Here is a lines plan of a small wooden ship.

Bob

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Posted by Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:11:

Regarding the plans. No, I do not use CAD. I have never even tried it, and it sounds rather too complcated and expensive for me anyway. Probably take me years to learn to use it and I don't have that sort of patience!

I just draw them on large sheets of white card, then photograph them with a normal digital camera and colour them in with photoshop. The long plastic curve is a dressmakers curve obtained from Ebay and it is especially useful for ship plans.

Bob

Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:59

Even more impressive that you've hand-drawn them Bob.

I'd spent many years of my working life using a drawing board but in recent years have used a drawing program for building and model boat drawings.

Must get myself one of those dressmakers curves! I've got a set of French curves but they aren't ideal for the longer curves of a model boat.

Chris

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Thanks,

You can find them under either Dressmaker's Curve or Curved Ruler. Quite cheap! I have had no training in drawing, but I got fed up of museums, archives etc wanting loads of money for permission to use their plans for books and articles. Over the years, I collected a lot of ancient plans, well out of copyright, but too dark and stained to reproduce properly, so in the end, I thought I would draw my own using the old plans as a guide. I found it best to do them on white card so that I could do a lot of rubbing out of the initial pencil lines without making a hole in the paper! I find it quite relaxing, and usually listen to talking books whilst doing the drawings.

Bob

 

 

Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 14:28:47

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