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  • #18077
    captainslog
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      havnt been on for ages thought these might be interesting everything scratch built

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      #8538
      captainslog
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        build so far

        #18128
        ashley needham
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          Keith, can I ask what engine(s) and prop sizes you are using on this model ? thanks. Ashley
          #18163
          captainslog
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            hi ashley its a torpedo 800 and a 50mm two bladed prop with a mechanical controler. Ive also got 2 6v 10amp yuasa cells wired to give 12v.I havnt run the boat yet. look forward to talking to you soon

            #18173
            ashley needham
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              HHmmmm   My 48″ Fantome has two 800`s, and the performance is adequate, but not FAST, if you know what i mean.It will be interesting to see what yours goes like, as the hulls are different shapes and you are carrying possibly a bit more weight. The 800 is a slow revving motor and I am also wondering as to whether the 2 blade prop is the best choice (i know its what they reccomend for this motor). i may try some ordinary 3 blade props at 50mm just to see the difference.   Ashley

              #18174
              captainslog
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                sorry ashley my mistake its an mfa torpedo 850 with its mfa  controller. By the way what fuse rating should i use and where should it be?     keith

                #18183
                ashley needham
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                  An 850, thats the ticket, should go alright with that. Still, it depends on how fast you DO want to go! MFA supplied a 30A fuse with my twin 800 pack, as the speed controller is a 30A one, the 850 is almost exactly twice as powerful, but as you are using a mechanical controller, with the engine rated at 10A at normal operating conditions, perhaps a 20A fuse should be enough. The fuse should go on the battery leads, MFA did this on mine by putting two blade type wiring connectors between the red battery lead and connecting them together with a blade type car fuse, very neat. Boat looks good, you dont get a full appreciation of the SIZE by the pictures, do you ?? Ashley

                  #18194
                  Paul T
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                    Hi Keith
                     
                    Have you thought about the joy of fitting an IC engine?  the Perkasa is a very strong model and quite heavy and as such works very well with a 10cc hedgecutter engine.
                     
                    Paul
                    #18200
                    Bob Abell 2
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                      10cc??????…………………..Hedgecutter?
                       
                      Bob
                      #18201
                      Paul T
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                        @pault84577
                        Hi Bob
                         
                        An old style 2 stroke hedge cutter called a “little wonder” the engines were fantastic for fitting into 3 – 4ft model boats.
                         
                        Paul
                        #18203
                        ashley needham
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                          No No, electric is the “modern” way !        Ashley
                           
                          Perhaps a hedgecutter was what I needed on my icebreaker….hmmmmm………
                          #18205
                          Paul T
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                            Ashley
                             
                            Electric might be the “modern” way but there is nothing like opening up the taps on a big model and seeing it rise out of the water and power down the lake with a decent bow wave…..and no batteries to go flat after 10 mins.
                             
                            Paul
                            #18206
                            ashley needham
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                              Wellll, ok…..I`ll give you that……..  

                              #18207
                              Bob Abell 2
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                                Yea!…………..But where`s the lake?
                                 
                                There`s none round here!
                                 
                                Bob
                                #18210
                                Paul T
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                                  Hi Bob
                                   
                                  I will just stick it on the canal….plenty of space (in a straight line) and no eco nutters to moan at me.
                                   
                                  Paul (petrol head)
                                  #18238
                                  captainslog
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                                    yo fat controller  many thanks but  iv  tried ic in my thorneycroft with an irvine 25 but there were 2 many knock off bits.i have currently got a 48 inch virgin challenger with ansc60 which is unfinished but soon to be completed and will post pics soon.as for elec is the way to go ashley I dont think so as i am old enuf to have been brought up as a petrol head starting off as free flight keil kraft builder.N offence 2 the eco boys!

                                    #18239
                                    captainslog
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                                      oh by the way ashley i did say that i had 2 yuasa 6v 10 amp bats   but  that has now changed  i snapped a terminal off 1 of them and replaced it with a 6v 4amp will this work or should i get another 10 amp?

                                       

                                      #18265
                                      ashley needham
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                                        Keith, not such a good idea to have batteries of a different capacity ganged together to give 12v like that, as the 4 Ah battery will go flat well before the big`un, and this may damage the small battery through over-discharge. cant you manage to solder a wire on the stub? may be worth a go considering the cost. Ashley

                                        #21110
                                        Dave Jones 3
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                                          Ditch the MFA motor and get a MMB 900 series 55mm 2 blade z prop 2 x 12v 4300 packs from Component shop and an ACTion speed controller and watch her plane and have a run time of 55mins.
                                           
                                          Lead acid batts and a MFA motor are a total waste of time believe you me been there had the Tshirt etc etc
                                           
                                           
                                          dave
                                          #21112
                                          Dave Milbourn
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                                            Keith
                                            I have witnessed at first hand Mr Jones’ Perkie with the equipment he specifies.
                                            It is truly awesome, even with slightly reduced battery power caused by a faulty charge.
                                            Avoid lead-acid batteries in a planing hull. The clue is in the word “lead”……….
                                            PM me for any links you might need for the items mentioned.
                                            Dave M
                                            #21167
                                            ashley needham
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                                              I may well get some NiMh batteries, not for the speed but because I am beginning to doubt that the Gel batteries will last that long with generous amounts of amperage being extracted from them. As to speed, this will undoubtedly help but there again our pond is not particularly large or suited to high speeds and my Seahawk is fast enough for comfort as it is.   I am making a note of the previous details, even so…….Ashley

                                              #23455
                                              Mike Davidson
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                                                Ashley, I think our friend is talking about a petrol strimmerlike the council men use cutting down the weeds at the edge of playing fields. I had a friend down in Cornwall who fitted one in a model boat which was then powerful enough to tow a rowing boat with four people in. What he did was to chop the drive shaft and expose enough of the inner shaft to cut a thread in, then fitted a prop between two sets of locknuts torqued right up. set free of its load, the model flew over the water as it had a planing hull, you know the picture, a boat balancing on the tips of its propeller with occasional excursions down to the water making lotsof wake. Thinking about it, it must create the sort of problems like a racing car clutch, can your universal joints carry the torque ? and is the propeller going to tear itself out of the hull ? I have visions of the model doing a bluebird as the bottom half is going quicker than the top half, and could easily overtake or undertake to be exact. The beauty of that motor was that it had the pull cord starter. My son has a pair of IC racing cars for his children, and recentlytook one of the cars down our road for his daughter to play with, that engine had a pull cord starter, and sounded like a ferrari formula one car coming down the road at max chat, I remember thinking, that would be ideal in a boat as long as it had an efficient exhaust to get rid of the oilthat went straight through the engine without igniting, but you were right Ashley electric is much more efficient, and as an electronics technician I am more at home with it, I can’t see me running an IC boat in the bath, which is what I do to check waterline for ballast etc. She who must be obeyed would go ballistic.
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