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16 May 2009 at 11:42 #20884
Phil Winks 1
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Half way through my Barrelback build and already I’m looking for another Launch to build. what I’ve sort of plumped for is this.

Unfortunately I can so far only find these 3 views of it and could really do with a head on front view. (much like the stern view) to import to my cad prog so as to get the bow shape dead right can anyone point me in the right direction please
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16 May 2009 at 11:42 #6564
Phil Winks 1
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I need a front view of this
18 May 2009 at 17:15 #20949
Phil Winks 1
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Due to the apparent lack of details and further photos of this craft I’ve resorted to projecting the bow lines over the stern view using measurements from the plan and stern view.

This has enabled me to produce a complete set (well almost) of formers and a keel outline

also for reference I’ve produced a set of outline tracings of the plan and side view these will be used to produce the horizontal frame outlines.

Now given that I plan to build at 1m long and use plank on frame construction can anyone see any pitfalls that I may have not forseen
18 May 2009 at 18:06 #20953
Bob Abell 2
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Hello Phil

Just a thought………………….Where are you going to fit the motor?

I like the colour scheme…btw

Bob
18 May 2009 at 19:51 #20958
Phil Winks 1
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Hi again Bob If you look closely. Its not that clear with out enlarging the pics to full size they’re screen shots from a cad set at A0 (thats like 1100mm wide) the dark line on the side view is the propshaft line and above it and facing the front is a rough outline showing proposed motor pos. the idea is use a belt drive. and positioned where it is between F4 and F7 it sits under the control deck I hope. Still lots more drawing to do, still I’ve got till August at least. How easy is it to prevent water entering through the prop shaft if the inboard end is below the waterline? I assume it must be possible. I hope!!!
6 July 2009 at 17:50 #21895
Phil Winks 1
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Well 3 weeks has passed the barrel back has passed her sea trials and a month or 2 ahead of schedule most of the hardware and planking for the Holmeswood are winging their way to me courtesy of various members of the ever popular internet auction site. The plans are complete and have been printed and the timber for the frame will be purchased by the end of the week so watch this space chaps et al
6 July 2009 at 17:56 #21896
Bob Abell 2
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Don`t forget the driver!……..Bob
7 July 2009 at 08:01 #21902
Phil Winks 1
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I’ll do my best Bob but can’t build any bigger due to workshop restrictions and that means this will be 1/7th scale so maybe those 1/6th figures at CMB won’t look out of place. Pricey though at a tenner apeice a driver and a few passengers would soon add up my current budget looks like being in the region of £60 so 3 figures would add 50% quite a lot really so what price realism
7 July 2009 at 08:09 #21903
Bob Abell 2
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Hello Phil

How long is your model at 1/7th scale ?…….what motor etc

I`m now building the 1/6th scale Slo Mo Shun and certainly will have the obligatory driver….I`m hoping to have the driver turn his head with the rudder and steering wheel too!………hopefully

Got plenty of time to find a suitabell chappie!

Bob
7 July 2009 at 13:41 #21907
Phil Winks 1
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At 24′ full size the model comes out at 1m with the slo mo wuold you not only need a bust and would racing/period civvy pilot style attire not look appropriate in which case have a nose around some of the model aircraft web shops esp “steve webb models” I think thats the name for a motor I’m utilising another model car 540 motor not so hot this time and geared right down for that 70mm scale prop hopefully giving a nice scale speed this is not one I want stood on its tail at full ahead. with any luck the drivers hand will appear to move the steering wheel in time with the rudder. The wheel should mount directly onto a micro servo below the control panel

Phil
14 July 2009 at 16:26 #22001
Phil Winks 1
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At last I’ve got round to taking some photo’s of the progress so far. not bad really thankfully no serious errors on the plan the formers have all gone together nicely.

The keel is solid Oak, the formers are 12mm wbp fair faced ply and the deck bearers are Obiechi. It will be planked with 2mm Mahogany planks laid length ways and sealed on the inside with resin. the round holes in formers 9, 8 & 7 are for cables and cooling tubes to run as most of the hardware will be housed under the central control console/seat
14 July 2009 at 18:29 #22005
Paul T
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Hi Phil

I trust that you are using English Oak.

I hope that you enjoy steaming all of that mahogany planking (I dont envy you)

Paul
14 July 2009 at 18:55 #22010
Phil Winks 1
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Of course its English oak Paul and the mahogany is recycled you can still see the varnish on the edge of some of the planks. I got them from Fleabay and only paid about £12.00 for 40 planks 22x900x2mm

The steamer will wait a day or two yet as the frames still need lots of sandpaper to smooth things off.
14 July 2009 at 19:12 #22012
Bob Abell 2
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If you don`t mind me saying so, Phil, the construction is excellent, but the frames are too heavy?

Get them back on the bandsaw and cut out the insides and remove the longerons after planking………………….or are we too late?

Make it like an Aero!…………………….Bob………..Just walking by……..zzzzzz
14 July 2009 at 19:12 #22013
Bob Abell 2
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If you don`t mind me saying so, Phil, the construction is excellent, but the frames are too heavy?

Get them back on the bandsaw and cut out the insides and remove the longerons after planking………………….or are we too late?

Make it like an Aero!…………………….Bob………..Just walking by……..zzzzzz
14 July 2009 at 19:20 #22014
Phil Winks 1
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There are only 3 solid formers & the transome Bob. The longerons are needed to carry the deck as for weight it will need to hit 12lb at least and being basically an open boat there’s not a lot space for ballast so a little extra weight in the construction is welcome.
14 July 2009 at 19:59 #22018
Phil Winks 1
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If any ones interested the planking came from this good fellow at very reasonable costs
15 July 2009 at 15:15 #22035
Phil Winks 1
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Just re-read your post re: the bulky frames Bob. and more fully understand what you mean. the formers have been made that wide because she has a very wide gunwhale as storage lockers are incorporated under them and so the inside of the formers will be used support the doors for these. These are used for a variety of luxury items including a mini galley, fridge and charcoal or gas grill/barbeque. other optional extra’s available include a swim platform and fresh water shower and a head?? not sure how they sort the privacy issue. However an email has been despatched asking for some details/photo’s of the options so maybe I can include some of them.
16 July 2009 at 17:18 #22042
Phil Winks 1
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I’ve started on steaming those planks the photo shows the stage I’d got to last night, since then I’ve got 2 on the other side. I must at this stage point out an unintentional error in the thread title. The name of this craft is “Homewood Landing 24” not Holmewood. bit of a typo error there.
17 July 2009 at 16:03 #22054
Phil Winks 1
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some one once told me that the way to make sure I complete a model is to glue two bits of wood every day, well! Here’s the two bits of wood I glued together today.

and here

and another view

I just love the way the hull lines are developing. And even though she’s no speed boat, with clean lines like this you can see why the full size one is capable of 20 knots on a modest power plant.

and finally the essentials glues in case any ones wondering. Most of the job is done with Gorilla glue. (its foaming action covers minor misalignments in plank edges) the Mitre FFFFFast is simply a thick cyano (super glue) with activator. its spot holding properties are awesome on wood and its cured in 10 sec guaranteed
17 July 2009 at 16:43 #22057
Bob Abell 2
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Hello Phil

Just about to glue my structure now and your glue selection looks interesting!

Never heard of thse glues before, I going to need something similar and needs to be quicker than PVA.

What size and material are you using for the planks……out of interest?……….Are you going to double skin it with angled veneer?……..would look very nice?

Bob
18 July 2009 at 19:01 #22092
Phil Winks 1
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The gorilla glue takes 2 hours to achieve 80% strength Bob but once set is A very very strong and B totally waterproof. the super glue is pretty strong to, but make sure it is sealed well with paint or in time it may fail also with CA glues you get what you pay for this example cost £7.00 as opposed to the Gorilla glue that cost £4.00 for about twice the quantity. Lots of different clamps seem to be the order of the day. The planks I got from ebay they are assorted hardwoods (mostly mahogany) there is a link posted earlier and if the seller hasn’t got any listed at pres just use the message seller function and he’ll list some they’re about £3.85 for 15 x 900mm lengths and usually if you buy 2 bundles he sticks an extra 10 lengths in.

As for the idea of diagonally skinning her the intention is to copy the original so the exterior is getting painted. while the interior will be varnished mahogany or cherry depending on what stain this timber takes best. My only variation from the photo’s at the head of this thread may be colours as I already have loads of red leather left over from the barrel back.

I’ve done a few more planks to day and to give me a break I also tackled the prop-shaft support and rudder assy.

This is all dry fitted at present

actually thats not such a clear photo so try this

Edited By Phil Winks 1 on 18/07/2009 19:18:57
19 July 2009 at 17:55 #22112
Phil Winks 1
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Just passing by in a moment of boredom (got to wait 2 hrs for some glue to dry ) I think there may be a problem with being to committed to our hobby. witness earlier to day my good lady (who bless her always manages to feign a genuine interest in my shed work) mentioned she was going to look at some sails. “oh really dear. are you thinking of building a yacht?” this elicated a strange look “no dear sales” she replied ah well make your own mind up have I got to commited or perhaps I should be
22 July 2009 at 19:58 #22166
Phil Winks 1
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I have, much to my delight made contact with the guy in anapolis who manufactures this delightfull boat. And so far Mr Bill Donahue of AWC/uncommon boats.com has very kindly sent me two more renditions and some photo’s of the construction of the full size boat hull. some incredible likenesses so far.

and two of the full size hull in construction

Scary how similar the frames look eh Bob
22 July 2009 at 20:19 #22167
Bob Abell 2
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Hello Phil

Nice looking boat and model

The full size frame looks just like a model……it`s even got some filler slapped on!

You need a picture with people on board?

Bob
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