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4 July 2014 at 14:57 #50102
Tony Hadley
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Came across this on Airfix's site, which may be of interest.

http://www.airfix.com/news/airfix-unveil-specially-commissioned-queen-elizabeth-aircraft-carrier-model/
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4 July 2014 at 14:57 #5775
Tony Hadley
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A specially Commissioned Model
4 July 2014 at 15:42 #50103
Colin Bishop
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Interesting, I imagine they will sell a good few of those. Doesn't look very viable as an R/C conversion though!

Colin
5 July 2014 at 00:16 #50119
Peter Fitness
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It will be interesting to see if Airfix go ahead and make a production model. The model shown in the photo is made by Dave Coventry using parts from other Airfix kits. Given the fact the the carrier is new to the Royal Navy, Airfix may well see a marketing opportunity.

Peter.
5 July 2014 at 08:41 #50131
ashley needham
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Be silly not to, eh? All the work has been done regarding model design. Go very nicely with their T45.

I have a hankering to make one, y`know..if I can find some aircraft first…

Ashley
5 July 2014 at 13:39 #50143
David Wooley
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Now that's rather nice at 1:350 yet some how at 1:72 or even 1:96 it would be quite a monster of a model . How long before we see a GRP hull I wonder ? A 1:96 scale QE with a full air group of F35s before 2020 , it could only be done as a model !

Dave
5 July 2014 at 18:28 #50149
Paul T
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Dave

I am just starting to draw up model of the QE and at these early stages it is at 1:64. A big thanks for all of the photos that you sent me as they are proving to be an invaluable source of detailed information.

All

How big will the model be?

The full size QE is 280m long, 70m beam (at the deck) 39m beam (at the waterline) 11m draft………get your calculators out and start head scratching…….answers on a postcard to Mr B Abell, 10 Downing Street, London.

Paul
5 July 2014 at 19:09 #50150
Dave Milbourn
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Paul
You're going to get through a lot of A4 sheets printing out a hull over fourteen feet long – and won't you need a shed extension to build it?
I remember when I drew the fuselage plan for the T240 model aeroplane. I had to put an extension on one side of the drawing board – which was already 60" x 40" – and the thing was so big that I had to stand outside the shed in order to be able to see both ends of the plan at once. That model wasn't quite half as long as yours.
And motors???
DM (Scratching head as he retires into workshop)

Edited By Dave Milbourn on 05/07/2014 19:09:43
5 July 2014 at 22:45 #50157
ashley needham
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Airfcraft, it needs to be scaled to a size you can get aircraft to put on it, or there will be an issue making loads of planes and so on.

Ashley
6 July 2014 at 07:37 #50165
Paul T
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Dave

I am thinking of building it in sections so there shouldn't be any problems with working in the existing shed as for motors I haven't got that far yet but I suspect that some form of car starter motor (motors) might do the trick, failing that a couple of 75cc Briggs and Stratton 4 stroke engines will do nicely.

Transport and launching of the completed model does need thinking about, basically there are two options… the first is to transport it in sections and build it up at the lake side, the second option is to transport it as one complete unit for which I would have to build a trailer (which would also launch the boat)

For transport and launching instead of thinking in terms of a model it might be better to think of the boat as an oddly shaped dinghy and then consider the transport, launching and storage options.

Ashley

I agree that choosing a scale should reflect the size of commercially available aircraft kits…..I hadn't intended to place aircraft on the deck so scale isn't that critical.

As a point of interest which scale would you choose?

Paul
6 July 2014 at 07:50 #50166
Bob Abell 2
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Paul

Get yourself down to Llandudno boating lake on the West Shore, and if you are lucky, you will see a similar model aircraft carrier about the same size too

You could probably trace the owners address through the Council Dept?

As for motors?……Have you considered using one PT?…..Ha!Ha!

Bob

ps……Have you got Lady Jane's permission for this outlandish build?
6 July 2014 at 08:05 #50169
Bob Abell 2
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This was about six years ago

Bob
6 July 2014 at 08:09 #50170
Paul T
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Bob

I had thought of using PT as a source of both power and ballast but then there would be a very high risk of the power source running out of puff and the ballast being too excessive.

Lady Jane doesn't mind what I do as long as I am enjoying myself in fact Jane will be proof reading the drawings for me.

Paul
6 July 2014 at 08:32 #50173
Bob Abell 2
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What about an LJ power plant then?

And what about the famous plank hull?……..I posted a plank hull boat about two weeks ago and I think you've overlooked it?

I think the plank hull may be a good idea in your case?

A 13 foot hull will take some ballasting!

Bob
6 July 2014 at 08:43 #50176
ashley needham
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Paul. Not sure about the scale. My concern would be about the aircraft as for me this is the main interest on an aircraft carrier (by that I mean the detailing, not that you have made a nicely put together vessel ettc etc..and also thats what the public and i suspect other boaters like to see).

HOWEVER, this is a new aircraft type and so is not widely avalable yet. My Invincible was made to be 4 foot long simply as this is a shett length of thin ply. the aircraft, harriers, are about three inches long. The vessel is perhapos a foo too short for the aircraft. HMS qe is about twice as long as Invincible…but I cant fit a 10 foot boat in the car, or two 5 foot section.

I think a 5 foot model would do me, the 5 foot LCT4 fits in the car ok and there is some width left.

As far as I know car starter motors, although powerful, ,will overheat rapidly under constant use.

Plank or flat shallow/no-draught design the way to go, after seeing the amount of ballast Trevor needed for his 6`6" corvette.

Ashley

Edited By ashley needham on 06/07/2014 08:44:48
7 July 2014 at 09:31 #50223
Trevor Holloway
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I'm still considering free flooding ballast tanks for the corvette to lessen the amount of portable ballast. – hopefully at least 5 – 6kg worth.
7 July 2014 at 18:12 #50226
David Wooley
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Hi Paul a QE at 1:64th would be perfect for Ellesmere port Boat Museum , it's almost the home of super scale . the largest model to sail at the Boat Museum was Duncan Cameron's 29ft carrier HMS Invincible .

Dave
19 July 2014 at 19:09 #50544
ashley needham
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Nice cutaway drawing and schematic in this months Navy News. Good comparison drawing to Invincible and Nimitz. Deck plan nice and QE is nice and straight sided.

Deck area only 20% less than the Nimitz BUT having cats and an angled deck, the Nimitz probably only has the same actual useable deck area especially for combat flying.

Airdraft, and I am in.

Ashley
19 July 2014 at 22:07 #50549
The Long Build
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Pretty sure that the 2nd Picture is not the Queen Elizabeth, that was taken at the Ellesmere port boat Museum.
5 September 2014 at 16:57 #51855
Tony Hadley
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Returning to the original post, Airfix (and their model) paid a visit to the new carrier.

http://www.airfix.com/news/airfix-visits-the-hms-queen-elizabeth/
6 September 2014 at 00:11 #51865
Charles Oates
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Paul, you could install some pedals, and climb in!

Edited By Charles Oates on 06/09/2014 00:13:31
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