Prototype build of ELLIE

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I shall probably be up in the Norfolk Broads at the end of this week so I will look for a similar prototype.

Colin

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you Colin

That`s just what we need right now

Have to decide on the colour scheme too

Many thanks

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ashley

I thought about card myself, but there is a big risk of cockling?

Plasticard may be OK but don`t like the idea myself

It seems that 1.5mm ply is the right stuff

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The morning after the night before!

More fun for Bob!………Trimmimg the roof!

What could be nicer than a super sharpened quality plane, just waiting to skim down those crisp solid edges of the roof?………Followed by a nice clean up with the sanding block?

Let me get at it………..Lambs to the slaughter!………Whoopee!

er……………What`s that?

A cry from the kitchen………."Your breakfast is going cold!"

Back soon………..Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing Office……

Need a drawing showing roof cut out in the Cockpit area, please

Take a look at Peter Fitness`s pictures for his version and also his clolour scheme for inspiration

Bob

[Mr XParticipant @mrx]

Bob

Ians Silver Mist has a great colour scheme.

The ivory and brick red look great with varnish.

Mr X

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Welcome to the forum Mr X

Nice model and colour scheme

Have you started your model yet?

At the moment, it's very difficult to decide on a colour scheme, I'm hoping that Colin's trip to the Broads might come up with something inspiring?

Bob

[Mr XParticipant @mrx]

Hello Bob

Ian has made some lovely boats with great colour schemes and they are well worth looking at.

The build of the SeaSpray is coming along very well.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mr X

I`m very sorry, but I don`t know who Ian is?

Bob

[Dave_PParticipant @dave_p]

We seek him here, we seek him there, those model builders seek him everywhere. Is he in Norfolk? – Is he in Sussex? That damned elusive Mr X.

[Mr XParticipant @mrx]

Bob

Ian Gardner is an unsung member of this forum who produces some really wonderful models.

Dave-P

I have been in Sussex, Norfolk, Cornwall, Cheshire, Yorkshire and still they haven't caught me.

Mr X

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Of course I know Ian Gardner!

Sorry Ian for me being gormless

Just got to find your photos now!

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to top floor

The cockpit roof is drawn parallel…..How about tapering it towards the stern?

Also, it is shown in the raised position, but the legs are leaning back and won`t stay in that position automatically

I think they should be leaning forward in the raised position?

Can you show the canopy in the folded back position please

Bob

Edited By Bob Abell on 18/09/2013 10:54:06

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

Posted by Paul T on 06/09/2013 16:47:57:

Bob

It is essential to fit the coaming before building the cabin as the design calls for a fairly tight fit

This cross section shows the relationship between the coaming (shown in green), cabin sides and cockpit floor.

The cross section also shows the importance of the cockpit bulkheads in setting the shape of the cabin walls and roof.

This drawing is the longitudinal section and shows the location of the cockpit bulkheads and floor (shown in red)

Paul

ps I have decided to call the MTB version Red Leader all I need now is a name for the Fast Fisher

Edited By Paul T on 06/09/2013 16:50:46

RED HERRING ?

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

As I see my name being taken in vain on the thread may I thank Mr X for his kind words.

Regarding colour schemes Bob, I have spent over twenty years holidaying in the Broads ( I know!) and know these types of boats. I don't think I have ever seen one with a planked deck- much more likely to have a light brown linoleum type of covering. The hulls are generally white, cream, or bright finished, and the upperworks bright. Perhaps not as exciting as you'd like!

I'm afraid the colour scheme is always the first thing I plan with a boat.

Martham Boats still hire out some wooden cruisers and it might be worth having a look.

I can never remember how to do a link but here goes…

**LINK**

That might do it.

Ellie is looking fab by the way.

Ian

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

Another one…

**LINK**

One on here…

**LINK**

First one didn't work! Golden Dawn has some nice ideas on the second site. Aren't they lovely?

Edited By Ian Gardner on 18/09/2013 16:44:08

Edited By Ian Gardner on 18/09/2013 16:48:38

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Ian

The link works OK

They all seem to have white hulls and varnished wood uppers

I suppose the deck and roofs could be plastic chequer plate painted an old fashioned green, with a cream hull and varnished cabin sides……and a few green stripes

Not forgetting….pink curtains?

Bob

Edited By Bob Abell on 18/09/2013 17:01:27

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

And don't forget the mudweight! There's a picture of it on the Golden Dawn site- basically a large lump of metal on the end of a rope that sinks in the copious mud at the bottom of the Broads and acts as an anchor. Always nice to bring up again covered in stinky mud and weed!

Definitely pink curtains.

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Ian

The second link works ok……Plenty of ideas there and food for thought

I like the old fashioned tubs best

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Building the canopy frame………Remember the good old Keilkraft days?

I made five identical ribs from 5mm ply at the same time and adjusted them to suit the tapering outer side strips

Note Paul. I`ve added a central spine, for a bit of rigidity at the sanding stage

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Captain Bob

I have to admit that I didn't think that a central spine would be needed but if in your expert opinion you consider it better to have one then I will include it in the drawings.

I see from the latest photo that you are demonstrating how to use the drawings as templates, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words and I am very grateful that you have taken the time to show the less experienced builders how the drawing/template system works.

 

Paul

ps 5mm ply?

Edited By Paul T on 19/09/2013 14:11:28

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I'm using 1mm ply for the canopy roof

Picture soon

Probably brass or Ali for the supports….with a few extra holes

Bob……Shop floor staff

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Just for the Newbies

The finished canopy……Using 1mm ply and 4mm for the formers and frame

The next job is to make the support legs

I prefer Aluminium about 5 mm x 2 mm section……..or brass……..(Sod`s Law…..Got none!

Capt B

[Mr XParticipant @mrx]

Hello Bob

Will you be painting the model before fitting the motor?

Mr X

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mr X

Not decided yet………Let nature take it`s own course?

Have you got a picture of your modell to show us yet

Any problems….Just shout out

Bob

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