PAW diesel motors.

[Neville Taylor 2Participant @nevilletaylor2]

Hi you diehards from the 60's out there.

Did anyone ever have a PAW diesel motor? I recently uncovered a brand new, never used PAW 1.49cc. Trouble is I cannot source anyone in Tassie who sells the Diesel fuel.

I can make my own like I did in the UK but I'm having trouble sourcing Ethyl Ether and Amyl Nitrate. Chemists in Smithton Tassie no longer stock such items. Any hints or tips would be much appreciated.

Neville

Tassie Devil

[Neville Taylor 2Participant @nevilletaylor2]

Fuel for such a beast.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Neville

Can't help you really……….Just a talk

The engines were and still are…..Made in Macclesfield, not from where we live

I'll guess they don't make the Diesels now

I was flickin ' Paws, way back in the 50's, along with the Mills and ED's and later…..McCoy's

Happy days indeed

We used to make our own fuel……..Caster oil + Ether + Paraffin…….In assorted amounts!

If it's in new condition…….Sell it to a collector and get something else?

All the best

Bob

[Neville Taylor 2Participant @nevilletaylor2]

Hi Bob.

It's BRAND SPANKING NEW. NEVER been fired up I used Castrol "R" + Ether + Regular Vehicle Diesel + Amyl Nitrate. I ran my ED Racer, Mills .75. AM diesels and any others I had. The only problem with a Caster Bean oil is the fact that if you didn't clean your motors after a run the gum residue could turn to a hard finish like lacquer. A quick turn over after being in a tin of petrol did the trick.

The only problem with this you had to remove the motor off your model. One guy at our club didn't and the petrol soaked into his models airframe and it went down in a blazing death dive.

Well if you look on ebay, or Gumtree there are still a lot of near new diesels out there.

Regards

Neville

[Neville Taylor 2Participant @nevilletaylor2]

For those still interested in Diesel engines visit "ebay.co.uk" type in model diesel engines and you will see new unused, vintage etc of DC, ED, Mills .75 to 2.4cc, Amco, AM, Typhoon, Super Tigre just to mention a few.

Russian, American even converted COX.

Neville

[Peter FitnessParticipant @peterfitness34857]

I have fond memories of flicking my old ED 1.46 diesel motor which I bought in 1954. It could be a frustrating exercise to a novice, as I was then, and I still have a couple of scars on my fingers from when it bit me I used it in a free flight Tomboy, which terrorised the cattle in my uncle's paddock when I flew it. I also used to mix my own fuel, back in the days when ether could be bought at any chemist shop. I still have the motor, albeit missing the plastic fuel tank which succumbed to misuse many, many years ago. The motor is currently on loan to my brother-in-law, to complete a set of ED engines he owns and displays in his workshop.

Peter.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I remember a fellow Aeromodeller buying a Frog 500……….Petrol engine………About 1955

What a rare engine that was………Never seen one since

The Posers engine was the Oliver Tiger………Never understood why production stopped?

Those were the days, my friend

Bob

[Neville Taylor 2Participant @nevilletaylor2]

Hi Guys,

Good to hear that there are so of us 'oldies' who remember getting bitten back by a semi hydraulic lock. In cold weather and with a Ether soaked finger it hurt like hell when feeling returned. I have found a source for Ether at $33 for a litre BUT $20 to courier it because of it being volatile.

Ah well it I want it I gotta pay.

I'm still a 'petrol head' I've not cottoned on to Brushless motors I suppose one day I'll stop being a dinosaur but I love the smell of model diesel fuel and nitro-methane and methanol.

Neville

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I only ever made one foray into the world of I/C when, as a boy, I scraped together enough money to buy an ED Marine Seagull diesel for my Aerokits Fast Patrol Launch which performed miserably on a Kako motor and dry batteries.

It was a temperamental motor and I never got it to work properly even on the bench where it would either lock up or just run for a few seconds before expiring. The compression setting was obviously very critical, as was the carb.

The nearest I ever got to a 'sea trial' was to dip the rear of the boat into the kitchen sink filled with water. I eventually got it started and it ran for several seconds during which time the entire contents of the sink were copiously distributed around the kitchen. My Mother, like Queen Victoria, was not amused.

I have stuck to electrics ever since.

Colin

[Jens Eirik Skogstad 1Participant @jenseirikskogstad1]

Posted by Neville Taylor 2 on 06/08/2016 04:43:52:

I can make my own like I did in the UK but I'm having trouble sourcing Ethyl Ether and Amyl Nitrate. Chemists in Smithton Tassie no longer stock such items. Any hints or tips would be much appreciated.

Ethyl ether can you find in the start gas such as in John Deere start gas or similiar start gas spray box who is labeled with Ethyl ether or Diethyl ether.

Remove propellant out of spraybox when you are make a little hole top of spray box when you are piercing with awl before you are pouring Ethyl ether in measure glass and mix with kerosene and castor oil.

Amyl nitrate is impossible to buy. Use glass fiber hardener fluid as dope in fuel, see after the glass fiber hardener bottle who is labeled "Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide". Mix MEKP 2% in fuel.

Both fluids who as last name "nitrite", "nitrate" and "peroxide" are used as dope in fuel to reduce ignition lagg.

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