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  • #75142
    Dave43
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      @dave43

      hull.jpgWell made a start, its now time for sanding sealer for the hull.

      Spent a few days trying to get a good set of plans but nothing about, so set off with a few pics and a sketch from the side to be going on with.

      dave

      Edited By Dave43 on 19/01/2018 10:15:14

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      Dave43
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        @dave43

        scratch build from photos

        #75144
        ashley needham
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          @ashleyneedham69188

          43:. Good man. Working without plans is very rewarding, and as long as you make a reasonable job of it, no one can gainsay you, as there are no plans to compare with. Certainly true of half the things I build!

          ​Although there may be no actual plans of your vessel, things like fittings will be generic for the period of course for the detailing.

          ​Do you have any measurements of the real ship, as this is usually of great help…..failing this, scaling to persons in a picture is a good method.

          Ashley
           

          Edited By ashley needham on 19/01/2018 10:18:28

          #75148
          Dave43
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            @dave43

            Yes it does feel good, to have seen a sketch of boat deck and a set of dimensions about length and beam. So away I went, a few pictures and as you say people are a good indicator of scale worked out to be about 1/76 so hopefully train stuff will be ok.

            #75154
            Paul T
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              @pault84577

              Hi Dave

              Is this site link any help with your project?

              Paul

              #75164
              Dave43
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                @dave43

                thanks Paul thats the very one and there was only one more partialy showing the decks 3 & 4

                dave

                #75167
                ashley needham
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                  @ashleyneedham69188

                  M​aking it at train scale will be very good, as once completed you will be able to populate it with passengers/crew, lots of them and this will make the boat stand out from the usual ones with NO passengers.

                  ​Ashley

                  #75198
                  Paul T
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                    @pault84577

                    Dave

                    Did you join the Ships of Calmac forum so that you could access all of their information?

                    Paul

                    #75213
                    Dave43
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                      @dave43

                      hi Paul.

                      gave ships of cal mac on facebook a view but didnt look for any others. suppose i shoud have done ….but prefer doing other things than on the computer. and thought i had enough info to make a start, however no doubt there will be a few discrepancies to worry about later on.

                      dave

                      #75217
                      Paul T
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                        @pault84577

                        Dave

                        It might be worth it as they do have access to a full set of drawings.

                        Paul

                        Edited By Paul T on 21/01/2018 12:01:29

                        #75256
                        Dave43
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                          @dave43

                          might be a bit risky might have to start again! but could be a good idea whats that .nothing ventured and all that

                          .

                          dave

                          #75259
                          Paul T
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                            @pault84577

                            Dave

                            I joined the forum and found the site to be a mine of information with plenty of photos but somewhat difficult to navigate.

                            Paul

                            #75261
                            ashley needham
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                              Dave. Yes you will have a dilemma if the plans show something more than "just a bit" different to that which you have made already!!

                              ​Depends on if you want a pukka scale model or something that looks the part. Nothing wrong with boats that look the part…that's what most of mine are!

                              Ashley

                              #75348
                              Dave43
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                                @dave43

                                whoops already found a bit of a differance from the first drawing. and after study of photos made my first modification. so not a big one to differ from original.

                                yes think it will only look the part, think it would be too difficult to follow at this scale and no drawings so a close 'looking the part' it will be ok from the side of pond hopefuly .

                                next problem is the ramp hinge had thoughts about use of a strip of cloth no doubt it could be hidden and not seen after painting and the like

                                ds

                                #75349
                                ashley needham
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                                  @ashleyneedham69188

                                  Dave. Try model aircraft rudder/flap hinges. Come in a range of sizes. Ashley

                                  #75358
                                  Paul T
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                                    @pault84577

                                    Piano Hinge:

                                    Image result for small piano hinge

                                    #75375
                                    Dave43
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                                      @dave43

                                      thanks Ashley and Paul will give them a look at.

                                      Dave

                                      #75599
                                      Bob Wilson
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                                        @bobwilson59101

                                        Last year, I produced a series of downloads called The Shelterdeck, containing historical notes, model constructional notes and various nautical articles. They are about 16 pages in length, and each contains a ship plan. Each issue took me between 7 and 8 hours to write, so there is a nominal charge of £1.49 each (less than the price of a cup of coffee). Interest in these articles steadily declined, so I eventually discontinued them after just over a year, but they all remain available. The plans of Lochnevis are contained in this one: **LINK**

                                        If you click the link, and scroll down a bit, you are not committed to purchase, but may read the synopsis. Then, if you wish to purchase the download, a Paypal/credit card button is provided.

                                        I am not a business, or a plans service, being aged 73, but a retired seafarer, whose hobby is writing, and building ship models. Please see my photo album here on Model Boats. Here is a photograph of my model Lochnevis, built from the plans in The Shelteredeck.

                                        Bob

                                        lochnevis (medium).jpg

                                        Edited By Bob Wilson on 05/02/2018 09:08:52

                                        #75604
                                        Banjoman
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                                          @banjoman

                                          Bob,

                                          I may be mistaken, but I think that Dave's model is of the current Lochnevis (**LINK**), whereas yours looks like an older ferry with the same name … ?!

                                          Mattias

                                          #75613
                                          Bob Wilson
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                                            @bobwilson59101

                                            Mattias,

                                            I didn't know there is a current Lochnevis, but looking at your link, there are three large windows and two small ones on the side. In Dave's model, there are five, all the same size, as in my older Lochnevis shown above. No doubt Dave will clarify which one presently. If it is the present one, I doubt whether plans will be made available, even though they will exist, because of security!

                                            Bob

                                            #75618
                                            Banjoman
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                                              @banjoman

                                              Bob,

                                              You are quite right, and as you say I'm sure Dave will presently confirm which one it is; however, my guess is that it'll be the current one, given the length of the fore deck in relation to the side windows that you mention. On the older ship the fore deck is quite long, with the bridge (and the side windows) almost midships, as in your model, while the modern one has the superstructure (and the windows) closer to the bows …

                                              Mattias

                                              Edited By Banjoman on 05/02/2018 10:45:11

                                              #75624
                                              Dave43
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                                                @dave43

                                                lochnevis (5).jpghi all

                                                yes its the current one I am working on, and yes had to sort out the windows, but this is what happens when you get drawings from ships of calmac …not realy as is. so windows are now sorted ready for painting of the hull and working on the ramp now, so hope i dont come across any more fopars. at least as easy to remedy as the windows.

                                                dave

                                                 

                                                Edited By Dave43 on 05/02/2018 12:15:43

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