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  • #7106
    Colin Bishop
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      Wiring diagrams

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      #73725
      Colin Bishop
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        @colinbishop34627

        In the 2017 Winter Special Issue of Model Boats the wiring digram for the two versions of the model constructed by Dave Milbourn unfortunately failed to resize during the production process.

        The article does describe the wiring comprehensively but the full diagram can be seen below.

        Colin

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        Edited By Colin Bishop, Website Editor on 20/10/2017 08:36:42

        #73974
        Derek Bradley
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          @derekbradley32270

          Thanks, Colin. I got the plans from Sarik this morning after a bit of a delay and I understand that mine was not the only order for them so we may see some more Huntresses hit the water. It is my intention, hopefully, to get the necessary parts of the drawings increased by 150% so that I can build a 1:8 scale model. Always fascinated by these boats since the early days of the offshore power boat racing (1:1 scale).

          Derek.

          #73977
          Rumration
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            @rumration

            Thanks for the heads up Colin. I ordered and have received the autumn mag with the build article but was somewhat disappointed that the plan is not included! The model aircraft mag I buy alway includes a plan for the main build article, sometimes even a second plan.

            When I have got over this setback, I’ll no doubt shell out the cash and buy it. Hopefully there will be a build blog started before I get round to my build ( probably next January)

            I like your idea Derek, 1/8th scale let us know how it goes especially where you get the plan enlargement done.

            Regards, Glyn

            #73978
            Colin Bishop
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              @colinbishop34627

              Glyn,

              Model Boats does publish six free plans each year, the Huntress is a feature plan article which does, I'm afraid, mean you have to buy it and this has always been the case. The stitched in free plans are limited by the physical format which restricts their size and complexity. In providing a mixture of free and feature plans we try to cater for the interests of as many readers as possible whilst still keeping the cover price of the magazine within economic limits!

              Model aircraft are more popular than model boats by many orders of magnitude so perhaps they can afford to spread themselves a little more!

              Colin

              #73979
              Rumration
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                @rumration

                Hi Colin,

                i was tongue in cheek mostly, but I understand, no problem really. I just would have liked the materials list as I am going to the Warwick show and would have liked to have had a mooch round getting the bits. I have ordered the plan this afternoon but would be lucky to receive it before Friday next, as Colin experienced some delay.

                Thanks for the answer anyway.

                Happy days, Glyn.

                #73980
                Derek Bradley
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                  @derekbradley32270

                  Hi Glyn,

                  If you saw the size of the 2 sheets of drawings you would realise why they were not included as a free plan – I can't imagine the size of magazine requiredwinkto accommodate them.. So far as enlargement is concerned, my local print shop is the immediate answer but I was wondering if Slec could enlarge them and laser cut all the sections out for a 1:8 scale model – that would be convenient as I do not live too far away from them and it would be no problem to drive over to their factory (as I have done in the past). I will have to email them. You should not have any problem getting the plans, Glyn, as the delay with mine was waiting for Sarik to get the plans and setting them up for printing which is now up and running.

                  Derek.

                  #73981
                  Rumration
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                    @rumration

                    Ok Derek,

                    Full speed ahead now, well the planning mode anyway. Going to start collecting items for the build at the Warwick show.

                    Having said that, I have a rc plane to finish and maiden, and a couple awaiting a repair. So don’t think I’ll be cracking on with the Fairy this year. But you never know!

                    Cheers for now, Glyn

                    #73983
                    Paul Freshney
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                      @paulfreshney24971

                      Derek

                      Sarik were sent the plans on Saturday 7th October by email attachment, they acknowledged receipt on Monday 9th, and then promptly lost them (unbeknown to us), bursting into life again this last week once subscribers who got their magazines early this week started wanting to order them and they (Sarik) couldn't find them and then asking us where they were…..

                      Their advert was deliberately placed within the Huntress article in the hope(!) that they would also include the Huntress plan within it, but alas no.

                      Anyway, at least they are available now and yes, the plan would not fit the Free Plan format as you have said.

                      The Sarik Hobbies website is now up and running and it does not too bad at all – nicely laid out and logical.

                      Dave Milbourn's plans are always first class and very, very comprehensive.

                      Paul Freshney.

                      #73984
                      Dave Milbourn
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                        @davemilbourn48782

                        That's "Fairey" with an E, or criminal charges may become part of the consequences of cracking on with one…

                        This is the chap who started it all **LINK**

                        although his son Dick was mainly responsible for the 60's powerboats.You might also be interested in this chap

                        **LINK**

                        DM

                        #73986
                        Derek Bradley
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                          @derekbradley32270

                          Thanks for the update Paul. I emailed Sarik almost as soon as I received my copy of the magazine and heard nothing from them whatsoever for over a week and then, after a gentle reminder, they said that the plans were ready and I got them in the post the following day. I agree with you that Dave's drawings are brilliant.

                          Derek.

                          #73987
                          Derek Bradley
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                            @derekbradley32270

                            Anyone interested in the full size offshore power boat racing in the days of the Fairey boats should have a look at this – https://youtu.be/WrscP7vxcIQ. I enjoyed every minute of it and the page gives you links to other offshore races.

                            Derek.

                            #73989
                            Dave Milbourn
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                              @davemilbourn48782

                              Is that race still run? I remember watching the boats from the headland as they came around past Broadstairs. I also remember that holiday as being the occasion of my first ever pint of bitter! It was Whitbread Trophy but it tasted OK to an under-aged Woodpecker cider drinker. My tastes in beer have, I think, improved whereas my taste in powerboats remains steadfast.

                              For true Fairey nutters like me there is a wonderful 'coffee-table book' by Charles Lawrence entitled "Fairey Marine". ISBN is 978-0-9927773-2-6. It's fifty five quid, mind, but what good's an obsession if you're going to be stingy with it?

                              BTW Thanks for the kind comments about my drawings. I've been practicing for nearly fifty years and I'd like to think I'll crack it one day!

                              Dave M

                              Edited By Dave Milbourn on 04/11/2017 14:01:18

                              Edited By Dave Milbourn on 04/11/2017 14:02:45

                              #73992
                              Derek Bradley
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                                @derekbradley32270

                                I am pretty sure that that race is not run any more. I think that it bit the dust (or the salt water) when offshore power boat racing in that form became just too expensive even for the wealthy backers. I have a slight suspicion that there is still some form of 'classic' offshore power boat racing but I stand to be corrected, or someone may know more about it than me.

                                #73993
                                Dave Milbourn
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                                  @davemilbourn48782

                                  Yep – one quick Google and it's confirmed that there is still an annual thrash from Cowes to Torquay.  http://cowestorquaycowes.co.uk/2017-results/

                                  Sir Tommy Sopwith was well known for his racing boats as well as his aircraft designs. He apparently likened owing a powerboat to standing under an ice-cold shower while tearing up £50 notes.

                                  DM

                                  Edited By Dave Milbourn on 04/11/2017 17:06:27

                                  #73996
                                  Rumration
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                                    @rumration

                                    Dave, money paid to lifeboats as promised,

                                    #74063
                                    Graham Ashby 1
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                                      @grahamashby1

                                      Morning All,

                                      In case you haven't seen it running, we've just posted (to Facebook) a small video of Dave's Huntress on the water. She looks fabulous, as you'd expect.

                                      Kind regards

                                      Graham

                                      #74065
                                      Derek Bradley
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                                        @derekbradley32270

                                        Trip to Slec yesterday to get enough ply, etc., to get started on my 1:8 scale Huntress. I've now got backache with bending over transferring the lines to the ply.

                                        Bit of insider info – Slec will shortly start doing the laser cut wood pack for the 1:12 Huntress, which will speed up building time considerably. Also, I saw in the office a lovely looking, almost finished boat which they intend to bring out as a kit, hopefully, before Christmas. I think they said it will be called the 'Sportsman' and I'll bet it will be a winner.

                                        Derek.

                                        #74068
                                        Dave Milbourn
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                                          @davemilbourn48782

                                          Blimey, Derek – you were quick off the mark! Ian Hull first mentioned the possibility of this to me only on Monday and I sent him the CAD files and wood list just yesterday. That said, the guy never hangs around once he gets an idea, to the extent that I might well collect the first set of CNC-cut parts at the show this Saturday. We shall see.
                                          In case anyone hasn't seen the video, it was taken by Martin "Mayhem" Davis at the Wicksteed meeting last year. He does a grand job with that camera!

                                          Dave M

                                          #74072
                                          Rumration
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                                            @rumration

                                            Sound good. Look forward to seeing it.

                                            Derek give me a tip on your method of transferring the lines on the plan onto the wood. Got to do it, never have. Thought I might use my spiky woodpecker thingy ma bob. But always glad to learn how you experienced guys tackles these jobs.

                                            #74075
                                            Dave Milbourn
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                                              @davemilbourn48782

                                              I place the plan over the wood and use a suitable spiky thing to prick a hole through at each corner, then I join up the holes with a fine biro. For curves, a hole every few cms is the method, joined up using French Curves or a bent length of stripwood as a guide. Always leave excess material (a millimeter or so) and then use the Permagrit + shooting board to sand back to the line. This gives you a clean edge that's exactly at 90° to the face of the ply.
                                              Other methods involve carbon paper or tracing paper, but I've always fought shy of any method that involves gluing a paper template to the wood as there's the risk that it will distort and alter the shape and size of the part.

                                              Dave M

                                              #74076
                                              Derek Bradley
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                                                @derekbradley32270

                                                Sorry to be a bit slow in replying but have been going mad cutting out frames and various other formers – more backache – but most of them now ready for the final bit of sanding and shaping and I think that all went well really. Glyn – my method may not be the best but it certainly worked for me. I did think of using carbon paper but had got 2 copies of the appropriate enlarged drawings and decided to carefully cut everything out using an extremely sharp modelling knife – the ones where you can break off a section of blade so that you can always have very sharp pointy bit. I knew that if this did not work I would still have another copy to fall back on but it did work and, I think, very well. Having cut out all the pieces I then held or pinned them on to the birch ply sheets and then, with a very sharp pencil, marked round all the edges. This worked perfectly, giving me a sharp line to work to with an ordinary hand-held jigsaw with a very fine toothed blade and I am certainly happy with the results. One reason that it worked for me is that the copy shop had printed the enlarged plans onto fairly thick paper, so my idea might not work with thinner paper or liteply. Apologies for this great long blurb but hope it is of some help.

                                                Derek.

                                                #74077
                                                Rumration
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                                                  @rumration

                                                  Ok Derek,

                                                  I don’t think I’ll being doing that as I only have a single plan copy! Although I could scan and print each individual piece on my home printer I guess. Don’t think there is a branch of copy shop near me.

                                                  I thing I read somewhere that if you do as above on an ink jet printer, which I have, and immediately put the print onto the ply, ink side down, and use some down pressure the ink should transfer to the wood, so I’ll probably have a go and see what happens.

                                                  Thanks for the info.

                                                  #74078
                                                  Rumration
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                                                    @rumration

                                                    PS I didn’t know that you could still obtain carbon paper!!!

                                                    #74079
                                                    Dave Milbourn
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                                                      @davemilbourn48782

                                                      I didn’t know that you could still obtain carbon paper!!!

                                                      Just Google it – there's faahsands of it on t'internet! Copy Shop isn't a chain of stores – at least as far as I know. It's shorthand for any drawing office supplies shop who offer a copying and printing service. Staples used to do it but our local one has closed. I use these guys who are a mere two miles away **LINK** I can E-Mail them a drawing file and they'll print it out ready for collection. There must be other such traders all round the country; certainly in towns where there's a university.
                                                      I think the inkjet transfer method uses a warm iron to assist with the process, but I've never tried it.

                                                      DM

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