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21 October 2013 at 11:42 #44519
Barry Martin
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Building this 24" Air/Sea rescue launch from old plan. Struggling to find reasonably accurate info. about colour scheme. All photos are black & white, and cannot find anyone else who has built one. Mine is not the "whaleback" which seems to be the popular one, but the ordinary one with the three gun turrets. If there is a plastic kit – these give accurate colour suggestions – anyone able to help, please?
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21 October 2013 at 11:42 #6902
Barry Martin
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21 October 2013 at 11:54 #44521
John W E
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hi Barry is it this ASL you are building ?

aye

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21 October 2013 at 12:21 #44523
Barry Martin
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John, that was quick! Yes, this is the one, but I don't think it will look as good as yours! Mine is planned to sail – is yours static? I am using a Model Boats plan from wayback, sent to me by another modeller. After advice from someone else, I planked the deck, and stained it – but all the similar boats I have seen (at Blackpool this weekend – what a poorly lit show! ) -seem to be painted, so I've probably made my first mistake! Did you have an authentic scheme to base your boat on? Is there a useful Website somewhere – but with colour images? Barry (from Bolton, Lancs)
21 October 2013 at 14:36 #44528
Sub Mandrel
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Hi Barry,

John's magnificent model is pretty much the standard colour scheme for the latter half of the war. At the start they had yellow decks. The obvious consequences were addressed by the more sober grey and, in the case of the whaleback, extra armament.

My avatar is a contemporary colour picture of a Whaleback, but the colours were the same AFAICS. I'll try and put it at the bottom of this post.

Neil
21 October 2013 at 19:32 #44534
John W E
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hi ya Barry and everyone in the World, sadly and very sadly this model wasnt built by me and it doesnt belong to me – it is housed in the Maritime Museum in London and I believe the builder is unknown – all I do know it wasnt me hands up

Right Barry, to get back to the colour shemes of these vessels; I have built several RAF Rescue Launches namely The Whaleback and also the Vosper 73 foot one and when I was building these I was in touch with 2 or 3 people one gent, Christian Shepherd – I dont think he comes onto this forum though – but he does go onto Mayhem and I will send him a link to this Topic. Christian has a wealth of knowledge and is very helpful with these type of craft.

The 2nd guy is an Australian, and for the life of me cant think of his name I cant. He actually served on Rescue boats & he was based around the English Channel and when I questioned him about the colours of the vessels – this gent and Christian both came up with a similar reply – basically in the very early parts of War 1939 to about 1941 the majority of the boats had a bright yellow painted deck and superstructure. But, they came to realise that this made them too much of a sitting target for enemy aircraft and also some friendly aircraft used to use them as target practice. So, the colour scheme of the bright yellow deck eventually was faded out where only certain areas like the tops of cabins were yellow and then it was towards the latter part of the war it was phased out altogether and just a general grey scheme was applied. Also, for recognition you will find from about 1942 onwards these vessels began having roundels painted on the deck and also a red and white chequered area along with a radio call sign painted on the deck. This was to aid friendly aircraft in recognising the vessel.

if you can get hold of model boats mag, JUNE 1982 you will see there is an article, and a set of plans by John Pritchard covering the 67 foot ThorneyCraft Launch. I have several black andc white pics of these launches stowed away on a disc, asthis is one of my planned model builds. So, give me time and send me your email address in a personal message and I will email them to you – as well as sending Christian a link to this topic.

aye John
21 October 2013 at 22:19 #44540
CDSC123
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Hi Barry

John has asked me to help here, in truth he is at least as knowledgeable about this subject as I am but I hope this helps. Firstly visit this page and download Mudway's pdfs and diagrams (register/log in first);

**LINK**

This is my model, scratchbuilt at 1/24th;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25721684@N00/8281519230/in/set-72157632269542118/lightbox/

Some colour plates from John Pritchard and some snaps from the IWM (note varnished cabin sides);

Edited By CDSC123 on 21/10/2013 22:29:25

Edited By CDSC123 on 21/10/2013 22:40:47
22 October 2013 at 10:00 #44549
Barry Martin
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Many, many, thanks, John and CDSC123, for your help and the terrific pictures. And you have given me a path which I can now follow myself. John, I think the plan I am using is the 1982 one, but without the building notes etc. and it came from a Luton Club member who answered my search for a compact version of an RAF asr boat -any type, any builder – so if I can get hold of a copy of the Model Boats issue, it would be useful.. However, I cannot claim I will build mine to the Exhibition standard of your boat, or those many boats sent on CDSC123's links – fantastic!, but I just want something which looks and goes right on our pond, and obviously colour is important. I can see that I will reluctantly have to paint my carefully planked and caulked balsa deck – but perhaps not yellow! Whose idea was that, in Wartime?!

Barry
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