British Brig 1863

British Brig 1863

Home Forums All things floating British Brig 1863

  • This topic is empty.
Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #75084
    Bob Wilson
    Participant
      @bobwilson59101

      Plan completed today of a British brig of 1863. Brigs had only two masts, and were square-rigged on both. This one was 256 tons, with a length of 108.3 feet, and a beam of 24.1 feet.

      Bob

      brig british 1863.jpg

      #4458
      Bob Wilson
      Participant
        @bobwilson59101
        #75088
        Banjoman
        Participant
          @banjoman

          Bob,

          Pretty as a picture, she is!

          Is she a named ship, or is it more of a generic depiction?

          Mattias

          #75090
          Bob Wilson
          Participant
            @bobwilson59101

            Mattias

            It is the British brig Admirable. Actually, I put the named sail plan on further down this section, but forgot I had done so. The reason for this, was that I actually completed the deck plan earlier today, but it will not be posted because it will be incorporated in my writing activities for eventual publication in a book.

            Bob

            #75092
            Chris Fellows
            Participant
              @chrisfellows72943

              Bob – as you mentioned on the other thread, you don't realise how deep these ships are below the waterline until you see a complete side view.

              As others have said, lovely drawings – I take it you are using a CAD/drawing program to produce them? It's very time consuming producing drawings of this quality isn't it.

              Chris

              #75095
              Bob Abell 2
              Participant
                @bobabell2

                Bob

                Any comments on the size of the rudder?

                They look very small, compared to a model's rudder

                I do realise that they are normally that small

                Bob

                #75096
                Bob Abell 2
                Participant
                  @bobabell2

                  Bob

                  Any chance of showing a typical cross section, please?

                  Was a catamaran format ever tried?

                  Sorry…….Probably a daft question?

                  Bob

                  #75099
                  Bob Wilson
                  Participant
                    @bobwilson59101

                    The rudders must have been adequate that size, or they would have made them bigger. Can't imagine catamarans would have been any good for carrying thousands of tons of cargo. Here is a cross section of a steel square rigger, they were all very similar. Note how deep the hull is in the sea with the waterline well up.

                    Bob

                    cross section steel sailing ship (large).jpg

                    #75100
                    Bob Wilson
                    Participant
                      @bobwilson59101

                      Regarding the plans. No, I do not use CAD. I have never even tried it, and it sounds rather too complcated and expensive for me anyway. Probably take me years to learn to use it and I don't have that sort of patience!blush

                      I just draw them on large sheets of white card, then photograph them with a normal digital camera and colour them in with photoshop.   The long plastic curve is a dressmakers curve obtained from Ebay and it is especially useful for ship plans.

                      Bob

                      drawing board (large).jpg

                       

                      Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:59

                      #75101
                      Bob Abell 2
                      Participant
                        @bobabell2

                        Thanks for the Cross Section layout, Bob………..Date?

                        Very interesting and nostalgic too

                        I notice that there is no main keel as a starting point, which comes as a surprise?

                        Bob

                        #75102
                        Bob Wilson
                        Participant
                          @bobwilson59101

                          There is a keel, it is sticking out in the middle of the hull! The hull is steel barque of 2,300 tons (1890s) so the keel is not as big as a wooden keel, but it is still there!

                          Bob

                          #75103
                          Bob Wilson
                          Participant
                            @bobwilson59101

                            Here is a lines plan of a small wooden ship.

                            Bob

                            lines plan.jpg

                            #75119
                            Chris Fellows
                            Participant
                              @chrisfellows72943
                              Posted by Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:11:

                              Regarding the plans. No, I do not use CAD. I have never even tried it, and it sounds rather too complcated and expensive for me anyway. Probably take me years to learn to use it and I don't have that sort of patience!blush

                              I just draw them on large sheets of white card, then photograph them with a normal digital camera and colour them in with photoshop. The long plastic curve is a dressmakers curve obtained from Ebay and it is especially useful for ship plans.

                              Bob

                              drawing board (large).jpg

                              Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 07:41:59

                              Even more impressive that you've hand-drawn them Bob.

                              I'd spent many years of my working life using a drawing board but in recent years have used a drawing program for building and model boat drawings.

                              Must get myself one of those dressmakers curves! I've got a set of French curves but they aren't ideal for the longer curves of a model boat.

                              Chris

                              #75127
                              Bob Wilson
                              Participant
                                @bobwilson59101

                                Thanks,

                                You can find them under either Dressmaker's Curve or Curved Ruler. Quite cheap! I have had no training in drawing, but I got fed up of museums, archives etc wanting loads of money for permission to use their plans for books and articles. Over the years, I collected a lot of ancient plans, well out of copyright, but too dark and stained to reproduce properly, so in the end, I thought I would draw my own using the old plans as a guide. I found it best to do them on white card so that I could do a lot of rubbing out of the initial pencil lines without making a hole in the paper! I find it quite relaxing, and usually listen to talking books whilst doing the drawings.

                                Bob

                                 

                                 

                                Edited By Bob Wilson on 18/01/2018 14:28:47

                              Viewing 14 posts - 1 through 14 (of 14 total)
                              • Please log in to reply to this topic. Registering is free and easy using the links on the menu at the top of this page.

                              Code of conduct | Forum Help/FAQs

                              Latest Replies

                              Home Forums All things floating Topics

                              Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)
                              Viewing 25 topics - 1 through 25 (of 25 total)

                              View full reply list.