its my birthday and I have splashed out

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20 March 2009 at 06:57 #3319
ashley needham
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20 March 2009 at 06:57 #19549
ashley needham
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Yes, yet another 21st has arrived today and in order to celebrate properly I have revisited the excellent premises of MFA to purchase a Seahawk offshore style powerboat. Its 40 inches long and has an out-drive and 850 motor. There are several reasons for this purchase a) I want it b) Its what I almost bought instead of the Fantome, but decided that if i bought it, i would always want a Fantome….so i have bought it anyway c) dont want to let the special sealant and marine epoxy filler to go to waste d) When we go to the seaside to play with the Fantome, Berengar will also want something to play with. e) dont want to be out-run on the pond by some smelly RTR type. f) all of the above , with knobs on.

If it was your birthday today….what would YOU get ???? Ashley
20 March 2009 at 07:05 #19550
Paul T
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Hi Ashley

Many happy returns…21 again eh?

Now you have grown up you are starting to by grown up boats so I guess in 20 years you might be building proper sized model boats at 6ft long.

Only one comment about the Seahawk…only one 850….you wuss…..really treat yourself and shoehorn 2 in.

I will have to get my MFA Sperafish out and show you how its done on the big boys side of the playground.

Paul

Edited By The Fat Controller on 20/03/2009 07:18:52
20 March 2009 at 07:11 #19551
Paul T
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Hello again birthday boy

You dont need any reasons to splash out and treat yourself provided you post some photos of the build.

If it were my birthday (my next one is 50) and I had the cash….I would get a CNC machine.

Paul
20 March 2009 at 08:58 #19559
Bob Abell 2
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Ashley………………Very amusing post, I had a good laugh!

What does this new purchase look like?…………………Bob

Paul……………..I like the idea, but, what would you use a CNC machine for?……Bob
20 March 2009 at 18:42 #19566
ashley needham
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thats the baby.
20 March 2009 at 22:43 #19575
Peter Fitness
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A belated happy birthday from the Antipodes, Ashley.

Bob, Paul would use the CNC machine for making CNCs

Peter.
21 March 2009 at 07:46 #19583
Paul T
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Bob

I would use the CNC to mass produce a kit of JD (make a fortune)

Peter

Now there’s a thought!

Paul
21 March 2009 at 08:13 #19585
Bob Abell 2
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A kit of JD would be something to behold!……………….I wonder how much a kit would cost of a model of 6`-6″?

Ahem……………no more challenges, please!

Bob

PS Found a source of stanchions at long last……………now it`s full steam ahead!

Bob the Builder
21 March 2009 at 08:27 #19588
Paul T
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Bob

I would have thought that a simple mental challenge to cost the construction of such a basic model wouls have been a walk in the park for someone of your abilities, couple with that the chance to improve one of Glynn’s designs. Don’t tell me that you are not tempted to have a go.

I would expect the retail price of a 6ft 6in JD kit would be around the area of £350 so you provided the CNC machine and I shall do the design work ……this time next year we will be millionaires (or more likley stuck with a shed full of unsold kits)

So come on Bob you dont have to build the Goblin just cost the build and see if you can get it below £50.

Paul (trying hard to show newbies that it can be done)
21 March 2009 at 17:14 #19594
Len Ochiltree
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Mmmmm, A kit of Judith Durham of the Seekers eh, a lot of blokes would fancy one of them !.

Len.
23 March 2009 at 23:05 #19664
ashley needham
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I have it at home now, and the out drive is a very sturdy bit of plastic made by Graupner and comes with another wicked 50mm x pitch prop.

The wood bits are laser cut, which is handy and there are a few more tiddly bits to fit compared to the other one. It has some moulded racing driver heads so i wont need to find any dolls, another plus. The top is a vacform, not so nice. Most fiddly is going to be the large sheet of stickers with which to decorate the boat. I should do this as an article for MB, as an example of a “traditional” boat kit, I could do with another few hundred quid to fund my next model

############## joke joke #############

Ashley
24 March 2009 at 06:17 #19680
Paul T
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I agree that it is a joke….fancy having drivers heads and not being able to play with your dolls.
24 March 2009 at 06:39 #19683
ashley needham
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Indeed…… A chap bought a paddle steamer to the pond a while ago, it was a teeny bit workmanlike… but there were hundreds of tiny clay passengers on it and it lifted it no end and looked fantastic. from that to no dolls and only two heads to play with, and even they are two halves of plastiform to be glued together,,,,and they will doubtless need filling and repainting, sigh…. Ashley
24 March 2009 at 06:43 #19685
Paul T
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Well you will buy things that are meant for Barbie….and just think for an extra few quid you could have bought a proper boat…….

Paul

When will this monster be on the water?
24 March 2009 at 18:40 #19702
ashley needham
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splutter splutter !! a proper boat ??? what ….a TUG !!!!

disclaimer. i am starting to feel inhibited now with my humorous postings. Paul will understand my reposte, but others i can see will take offence . Such is life

Ashley
24 March 2009 at 18:47 #19703
Bob Abell 2
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Hey…..Ashley!

How about a Work in Progess picture of your latest birthday pressy?

Bob
24 March 2009 at 21:43 #19714
Paul T
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Does opening the box qualify as work in progress?….its either that or a photo of the model on the lake…..

disclaimer. i am starting to feel inhibited now with my humorous postings. Ashley will understand my reposte, but others i can see will take offence . Such is life

Paul

Is there an echo in here?
24 March 2009 at 23:24 #19718
ashley needham
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Yes yes yes yes yes yes

I am working on the Toyboata at the moment for the lad.i need some meccano gears, a worm specifically.

I have opened the box and admired a few bits of the big boat. Perhaps over the weekend I will take some piccies, and see what I can stick together…the wooden battery box and screwing the motor mount to the wood bearer if the last one is anything to go by.

Ashley ashley ashley ash………
29 March 2009 at 15:06 #19800
ashley needham
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Let me see…time spent so far…

cycling home with large box on back…30mins, screwing motor mount on and glueing wood bits together, 30 mins. silicone sealanting in the bits, 15 mins, before that assembling and bolting on outdrive, 15 mins. looking for lid of radio box in workshop 30 mins. yes, thats about it so far.Ashley nb next stint will have to be making a stand for it, nothing fancy
25 April 2009 at 08:03 #20434
ashley needham
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Bit of a faux-pas on the building front. I have glued all the bits together, and MFA advises extending the battery box to accommodate the currently supplied 12v 7Ahr battery (I suspect the instructions are as per originally issued years ago when a 6Ahr batt, or 4Ahr 12v batt was the normal item and a 7Ahr was also available but not the normal fit) but I didnt need to do this. The 7Ahr fits nicely and so i suppose the “lazer cut plywood parts” have been re-sized for the bigger cell. . the battery sits in the hull, and doesnt stick up over the top or anything, and I trimmed the thin vacform top so it fitted nicely on the top deck. BUT when I put the battery back in and tried the top, the moulded-in drivers fouls the battery and prevents the top from seating properly! Disaster. I have e-mailed MFA requesting can I buy a new vacform and am awaiting a reply. The alternative is to cut the battery box about a bit and lay the battery on its side.Thinking about it, that would be preferable, and lower the C of G a bit however the top is very flimsy and could do with bracing and perhaps trimming to leave a bit more depth to it to suit. Failing this i could make a lite-ply top, and cut out the drivers in their cockpit to fit in. ho hum. Ashley

Nb I am going to spray the top, and not fit the stickers all over. These are very large and I just cant see myself sticking them down all square and flat, without having wrinkles and creases all over. i can use the name bits and numbers etc of course. Hmmmm, metalflake Red would be nice……
25 April 2009 at 10:14 #20438
Paul T
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Ashley

I like the idea of metalflake red….I once saw a full size speedboat in blue metalflake and it shone for miles on a sunny day.

Paul
5 May 2009 at 06:44 #20651
ashley needham
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Looks like metalflake is a thing of the past, at least in cans. Settled for a Ford bright red, which when sprayed on is a bit orangy? Looks nice though and the paint has gone on faultlessly. I have cut apart the battery box (in situ) and extended the bottom of it so the battery can lay on its side, and the cabin now sits on the flange where its supposed to, but the fit still wasnt great, so I have edged the bottom of the cabin with a strip on 15mm wide plasticard, and it fits nicely now. An unseen advantage of this is it has stiffened the top up a touch (its really annoying the cabin isnt fibreglass). The drivers heads, also a vacform moulding which i cut out and glued together with Plastic Magic cement, fell apart when trimmed…the joints become really thin. In hindsight I should have used loads of araldite which would pool behind the joints, but never mind. I had to re-glue them twice.

Although it sounds like I am having a bit of bother, these things are niggles really, and someone fore-warned about these foibles would have the thing built in two weeks. I hope to thrash it about on the pond this coming sunday, 10th May.

I may do some surfing regarding the metalflake paint, or possibly pearlescent laquer??

Ashley

Paint…perhaps no surfing, as you know what will happen, the new paint will be incompatible with the old and I will have weeks of rubbing down and repainting to put up with.
10 May 2009 at 14:07 #20771
ashley needham
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This is what the finished item looks like. And it goes a treat, when it is in radio range, which is not very far so a bit of work needed here. We were out about 1 1/2 hrs and the battery lasted ok. Not bad. With a NiMh battery in there to lighten it up somewhat it would fly. Its about a third faster than the Fantome. Boating came to a halt towards the end when the out-drive hit a submerged…object.. and disconnected the drive. I couldnt be bothered to get the screwdriver from the car at the time but have fixed it at home. The out-drive gives great manouverability, like a Kort nozzle. However the water pours in the hole for the servo rod , and it needs a bellows type arrangement. i will have to remove the big radio box but never mind. I cant get to the screws holding the o/d on with the box in place so its best removed, i will fit a smaller one.Nothing but twaeks on this boat…the Fantome went together as per instructions…no mods, no radio issues,no water ingress. AShley
10 May 2009 at 20:11 #20789
ashley needham
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Update, after I loosened the screws on the out-drive I actually achieved the straight-line drive as per the picture in the instructions (I cant have been pulling hard enough when I first adjusted it.) This should help performance, as the boat did go well, but cavitation was setting in unless the power was fed in slowly, the prop being too near the surface ..and its not a hydro prop. I have ditched the radio box and have fitted the servo on a seperate plinth, and will pop to Maplins tomorrow and get a small plastic box to hide the reciever in. (the Viper ESC being waterproof.) gosh i am going to kick some a###e next week (sorry)

I may fit some trim tabs, not because they might affect the performance, but because they look like they should, and Berengar will tell all and sundry that fact and so it WILL be faster. The Toyboata has been forgotten for a bit. (secret project) Ashley
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