Club 500

[Kev.WParticipant @kev-w]

The next few posts have been transferred from the Rudder Query thread after it became focussed on Club 500.

Colin

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Richard, we meet on a Wednesday, which should not interfere with your stints on a Kirklees

It's just a few races between 6 or 8

of us, just bit of fun. the more the merrier.

Just come down. There are one or two of our members who are into steam, read your articles in the mag,and would like to know more.

I have met you before,you came down to the Hartsholme club, with Jerry from Timberland, when I was Secretary of said club.

I am now with the Boston MBC, You would be very welcome.

 

 

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 13:06:07

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Apologies to Stephen as wandered off topic but as Club 500s have been mentioned. I take it you guys are running brushed motors as per the regs? If so, do your motors get really hot? Mine does, really, really hot!

Thanks, Chris

Edited By Chris Fellows on 24/03/2022 08:52:19

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 12:56:33

[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

Posted by Chris Fellows on 24/03/2022 08:51:29:

Apologies to Stephen as wandered off topic but as Club 500s have been mentioned. I take it you guys are running brushed motors as per the regs? If so, do your motors get really hot? Mine does, really, really hot!

Thanks, Chris

Edited By Chris Fellows on 24/03/2022 08:52:19

 

I can only think there must be something wrong. Poor connection, tight shaft, tight motor bearing. My motor is warm after a race but i can still touch it.

Do you get the performance or is that off? The bottom line is that it shouldn't get so hot.

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 12:57:48

[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

Posted by Kev.W on 24/03/2022 00:22:20:

Richard, we meet on a Wednesday, which should not interfere with your stints on a Kirklees

It's just a few races between 6 or 8

of us, just bit of fun. the more the merrier.

Just come down. There are one or two of our members who are into steam, read your articles in the mag,and would like to know more.

I have met you before,you came down to the Hartsholme club, with Jerry from Timberland, when I was Secretary of said club.

I am now with the Boston MBC, You would be very welcome.

 

My apologies I hadn't remembered you. I might take a run down to Boston one day to see what you get up to and see how you run your Club 500 races. Your calendar certainly looks quite intense with two or sometimes three races a month throughout the year. At Kirklees we have one race per month from February to September, which seems to be enough for most of them. It probably tends to be more of a scale orientated club, which suits me as I tend towards scale models more than anything.

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 13:01:30

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Thanks Richard.

I think the connections are Ok as I had to make a new mount for the servo and ESC as the original installation wasn't very good and the mount became dislodged after a coming together and I had to disconnect and reconnect the wiring including using a new connecter.

To be honest the whole build wasn't brilliant and the prop shaft and motor alignment might be suspect. Good to know that it should only get warm so I have something to aim for. Performance is good, even over race distance. I'll probably redo the whole installation as I want to try moving the battery forward a bit – I can't use full throttle for long as it starts to porpoise.

Chris

Edited By Chris Fellows on 25/03/2022 08:10:46

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 12:58:37

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

post a,ended as out of synch with previous posts!

Was going to say that the club 500s run ok so must be something amiss with yours

Ashley

 

Edited By ashley needham on 25/03/2022 08:43:22

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 12:59:24

[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

Preceding posts have been transferred from the Rudder Query thread.

Colin

As we seem to have unashamedly hijacked another thread by going off into the weeds of Club 500 I thought it only fair to start another thread on the subject.

As mentioned Chris for your motor to get hot would indicate to me that there is something wrong. You obviously already suspect alignment and I think that is probably one of the biggest culprits.

My Club 500 is frequently accused of being non standard as it appears to be quicker than most however I assure people that it is made straight from the box with standard parts. The difference is the care and attention with which it was put together. I assembled the motor and shaft using a solid coupling as supplied by the manufacturer but assembled the drive train vertically to ensure the best possible alignment. The motor was packed with sealant on it's base when in a vertical attitude to ensure there was no way in which it could all set anything other than in a perfect line. I am convinced this is why it performs so well.

As regards the bouncing, according to the instructions, the battery tray should be fixed using velcro so you have the ability to move the battery backwards and forwards depending on the conditions. I didn't bother and simply went for a neutral position and glued it. I don't like the idea that in a shunt the battery could come adrift. However if you are bouncing too much it sounds like the battery needs to move forward slightly. If your tray is fixed then you are going to have to live with it.

Edited By Colin Bishop on 25/03/2022 13:07:21

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

…so nothing to do with the 40 motors you bought to get the best one, then….?. Or the micro-finish 5000 grade wet’n’dry attention to the hull…or the super NASA grade aircraft polish to minimise water friction? Or the subtly re-profiled and shiny rudder?

None of these things? 🤭

Ashley

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[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

er, no!

….and you are not allowed to modify the rudder or the prop and the motor came with the kit!

Just back to basics.

[Chris FellowsParticipant @chrisfellows72943]

Good idea to start a new thread, I was thinking that.

Thanks Richard. I bought mine off a fellow club member, who bought it off someone else, so that I could get used to a fastish power boat and participate in the friendly club racing. It's been ideal for that and I've since bought faster race boats for use whilst I'm building my Faireys, not that I will be racing those! As well as my DF65 yachts.

The battery tray has been glued in but I can probably get it out, though at the moment my servo etc. mount is Velcroed to it. I've been thinking about building my own though to make a better all round job of it.

What did you use for attaching the hull and superstructure together?

Thanks, Chris

Edited By Chris Fellows on 25/03/2022 13:25:00

[Richard SimpsonModerator @richardsimpson88330]

Hi Chris, interestingly I purchased the glue recommended by the instructions to ensure I got it correct. I can't remember now what it was but it was more of a silicone sealant than a glue. Anyway after a good few dry runs and I was happy that the deck fit correctly I applied a bead of glue around the joint and assembled them. Unfortunately what I hadn't taken into account was the fact that the adhesive acted as a lubricant and I was no longer able to get the deck to stay in place on the hull. After spending a lot of time cursing and swearing and the application of a lot of Frog Tape I decided to give up and spent the next hour cleaning all the glue off again.  Luckily it was water soluble.

Then I had a play with some of the scrap with an assortment of glues. I was surprised to find that the plastic is actually a polystyrene derivative and that good old polystyrene cement dissolves the surface and gives a secure bond. Consequently I assembled the two halves, turned it upside down and spotted polystyrene cement along the joint. When that was completely hard I went around with a full bead of glue. I actually used too much as it slightly crinkled the surface as a result of the plastic melting so take care not to get too carried away. The best solution might be to spot it with polystyrene cement then run a bead of silicone around the joint but my next one will probably just use a little less polystyrene cement.

I went through three second hand boats before I decided I had learned enough to build my own but to a better standard. I'm sure it is the only way you will be happy with it.

Like the choice of colour though! Just to keep it less serious it also has a sound system that plays a General Lee horn for the lap of hounour.

 

Edited By Richard Simpson on 25/03/2022 14:57:21

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