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30 March 2009 at 11:12 #19817
David Wooley
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There are many many what could be termed Classic ship models from around the world either housed in museums , built for exhibitions or made by the non professional The vast majority are seldom or never seen either they are in store, in a private collection or even just in some attic space. I thought I’d give a new thread a go on what you may consider a “classic model “. the idea is to show what’s out there so it may help to engender a spirit of “I want to know more about that ship” were can I find more information. Or just a model out of the ordinary . So here goes with the first two models.

This is a model of a Sand dredger from the river Clyde from the late 19th century . The model can be seen at the Glasgow Museum of Transport.

This Tanker model is unusual as it was used at an Maritime Exhibition to show what the ship looked like before work began on refitting the vessel .

Very seldom do you see a “weathered model” at such exhibitions.

Dave Wooley
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30 March 2009 at 11:12 #7852
David Wooley
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30 March 2009 at 19:45 #19831
Paul T
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The M1

So many men died on this “white elephant” just so the Royal Navy could prove a point about fighting a stealth war.

The Mersey Mammoth

I know its not a ship but it does an amazing job and was fun to build a model of.

Paul
30 March 2009 at 20:50 #19834
David Wooley
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Hi Paul that’s an incredible cutaway of the M1 .Question were is the model?

Dave Wooley
30 March 2009 at 21:06 #19837
David Wooley
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Many know of the models built by Jim Woods and superlatives don’t do justice to his craftsmanship. I thought it would be food for thought to show this particular model of the exploration vessel Polar Star . This ship has an ice breaker hull form and has twin shafts for and aft. The model is completely scratch built using basic tool sand the kitchen table, it never ceases to astound me .

Dave Wooley

Edited By David Wooley on 30/03/2009 21:07:28
31 March 2009 at 06:42 #19840
Paul T
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HI Dave

I believe that the model of the M1 is in the British Museum.

Paul
31 March 2009 at 09:21 #19841
Bob Abell 2
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I consider my Great Eastern to qualify for an entry in this thread……………Afterall, it is a rare beast! and I`ve never seen a similar sailing model anywhere………Bob Brunel
31 March 2009 at 10:02 #19843
neil hp
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I’d agree with you there, Bob.

Well suited to this post.

neil.
31 March 2009 at 10:20 #19844
Paul T
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Your right Bob…all we have to do now is find someone who has built such a model.
31 March 2009 at 10:24 #19846
David Wooley
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Thanks Paul I have marked that one for looking into.

Hi Bob Why not. Your model is unusual and it’s been a long time since the Rev Will Mowel created his SS Great Britain another of Brunels masterpieces . One of my passions is the industrial ship model , and there is so much out there to see . Visiting such places were these models are house for me is an on going experience and seeing models like that of Bobs Great Eastern makes me appriciate what the non professional can produce.

Dave Wooley
31 March 2009 at 10:32 #19847
David Wooley
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I purposely look for the unusual and this photos shows the turret ship Nairn , {not to be confused with a type of mid 19th century warship }. In a floating dry dock . There is much to be learned from such models.

Edited By David Wooley on 31/03/2009 10:33:52

Edited By David Wooley on 31/03/2009 10:34:57
31 March 2009 at 12:16 #19848
neil hp
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I know why they are called “turret” ships, Dave,

but have always wondered what was the point of having the bulges on the flanks of the vessels.

was it just for added space below decks for cargo or something entirely different.

neil.
31 March 2009 at 15:12 #19850
Bob Abell 2
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Thanks chaps for your kind words. I`m pleased you agreed with the posting

Jeanie Deans at War is another rare model subject……………..coming soon!

Bob
31 March 2009 at 16:22 #19851
Colin Bishop
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They are not bulges Neil, that is the main hull of the ship. It was brought in above the waterline to give a narrow weather deck. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turret_deck_ship

Colin
31 March 2009 at 16:43 #19852
neil hp
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cheers colin.
31 March 2009 at 18:02 #19857
David Wooley
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This particular Classic ship model is the Ton class minesweeper Iveston from well known model builder Dave Abbott . It has won a basket of awards including a Gold Medal at the ME back in the early 1990s The workmanship is simply outstanding and its always a pleasure to view this model.

Dave Wooley

Edited By David Wooley on 31/03/2009 18:05:54
1 April 2009 at 07:24 #19862
Paul T
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Picking up on Bob’s comments regarding JD at war, I am currently involved with Neil in creating working drawings for King Orry 111 which as a Manx ferry served in both world wars and was tragically lost at Dunkirk.

This is another example of an obscure ship that deserves a more iconic status.

Paul
1 April 2009 at 07:52 #19864
Bob Abell 2
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That sounds interesting Paul!

I didn`t realise King Orry 111 was at Dunkirk……………..I like ships with a dramatic history and Manx ferries!

Will you post a few pix as work progesses please

Bob who lives in the past!
1 April 2009 at 08:05 #19865
neil hp
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@neilhp
OHHH I’m so glad you posted that pic, Paul.

She was an absolutely beautiful looking ship, as all the old IOM steamers were.

Hopefully once Paul as done the plans and I have finished the model I am building, I hope to make a split mould and produce a hull at 1:48 scale giving a hull size of about 78″ long.

I’d gladly produce a hull for someone wanting to build a model of this beautiful ship .

The more IOM steamers on the lake the better.neil.
1 April 2009 at 08:21 #19866
Bob Abell 2
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I like the size of that Neil…………….but what about plank on frame with card plates etc

Bob
1 April 2009 at 09:09 #19867
David Wooley
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Regarding King Orry I remember a few years back a IOM model steamers group opened the Convention at Ellesmere Port and there was a King Orry 3 amongst the models at 1;48 scale . Ron Eares is memeber and of the group and a present member of the EP model boat club .Makes a truly fine looking model..

Dave Wooley
1 April 2009 at 09:29 #19868
neil hp
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@neilhp
Hi Dave,

I have been in contact with Ron for some time, but sadly he has no knowledge of such a model. He was in fact my first port of call when I first started searching for plans.

Cheers, neil.

Do you know if the model steamers group is still going, and if so do you have a contact, other than Ron. He hasn’t been well for some time, and don’t like bothering him, on such trivials as my “wants”.

Bob, I’ll be moulding her with plating and belting on the mould (eventually)
1 April 2009 at 09:37 #19869
David Wooley
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Hi Neil I know the leading light of the group was a Mike Whithead , Ron has his contact details. I guess he would know were to sourse the model.

Dave Wooley
1 April 2009 at 09:44 #19870
David Wooley
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As they say “Now for something completely different” A few years ago John Hollis built a live steam powered model of the Czar of Russia’s Royal Yacht Livadia. This was distinctly out of the ordinary being “circular” in shape and having similar qualities {strange expression} as Ian Kennedy’s Novgorrod. The original builder’s model, as sourced by John Hollis is to be found at the Glasgow Museum of Transport. You may ask why a Russian ship in a Glasgow museum simple it was built on the Clyde by John Elders of Govan in the early 1880s. The original vessel was broken up in 1926.

Dave Wooley

Edited By David Wooley on 01/04/2009 09:46:40
1 April 2009 at 09:47 #19871
neil hp
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@neilhp
Cheers, dave/

neil.
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