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  • #5768
    simon j
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      #45413
      simon j
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        @simonj47917

        Hi everyone, I have never made anything from a plan but how do you go about transferring the pieces from a plan to a bit of wood for cutting?. A normal square piece or rectangle I can understand as I suppose you would just take the dimensions from the plan and redraw it on the wood but how about a curved piece or an awkward shape?
        Thank you

        #45416
        LARRY WHETTON
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          @larrywhetton68737

          Hello Simon ,

          print former on a printer, cut out paper patten , pritt glue to timber, ply , card what ever,

          or do what i do stick to card to make templates , for another build, or you could also use tracing paper ,

          also if you go down the printer r0ute print out another plan, al;ways handy….kingfisher  build 001.jpg

          see paper print out on bulkheads in picture, remove with damp sponge when ready ,

          hope this helps ….Larry..

          #45417
          LARRY WHETTON
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            @larrywhetton68737

            Hello Simon ,

            print former on a printer, cut out paper patten , pritt glue to timber, ply , card what ever,

            or do what i do stick to card to make templates , for another build, or you could also use tracing paper ,

            also if you go down the printer r0ute print out another plan, al;ways handy….kingfisher  build 001.jpg

            see paper print out on bulkheads in picture, remove with damp sponge when ready ,

            hope this helps ….Larry..

            #45418
            Tony Hadley
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              @tonyhadley

              Hi Simon,

              The normal way is with carbon paper, however I came across this alternative method from an American plan recently and it works fine — prepare the plan for transfer of the shapes/features by holding the right side of the plan against a window, trace over the outlines onto the back side of the plan with a soft pencil. Hold (or tape) the plan on the work and trace over the outlines on the right side of the plan. The soft pencil lines from the back side will be transfered onto the work. It works well and doesn't involve the (sometimes difficult to remove) smudges when using carbon paper

              Tony

              #45421
              Bob Abell 2
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                @bobabell2

                I`ve always pricked through the plan onto the wood, with a bradawl and joined the dots up

                Bob

                #45426
                Ian Gardner
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                  @iangardner62867

                  I use greaseproof paper and trace with a pencil, turn over and transfer to card to make a template- usually old cereal packets- but I like Tony's idea. I'm always a bit wary about using glue in case the pattern changes shape but perhaps Pritt Stick is OK.

                  Ian.

                  Edited By Ian Gardner on 06/12/2013 13:25:10

                  #45429
                  Paul T
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                    @pault84577

                    Hello Simon

                    If you are going to all of the time and expense of buying plans and building a model why risk making mistakes by hand copying for templates.

                    Find yourself a good copying shop, for me its Staples, have a couple of good quality full size copies made and then cut them up for accurate templates, don't use the A3 copiers that are found in local newsagents as they are usually old / tired machines and might not copy correctly (and can't copy a full size plan anyway)

                    Paul

                    #45433
                    John W E
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                      @johnwe

                      Hi ya Simon J

                      Like all things relating to modelling there is no RIGHT WAY and no WRONG WAY just the way that suits you and which is easiest to you and from which you get the best results. As has been mentioned in previous posts, you will see there are a few ways of transferring hull lines from a plan to the materials. To be honest, I have tried most of them with varying success/s. I tend to fall back on the 'old' tracing paper myself. I find this method most economical and a less expensive way of transferring the lines and as long as care is taken the mistakes should be minimal (if any). If you go down the route of photocopying the frames, cutting them out and sticking them to the materials – remember on the majority of plans there is only the portside frames usually drawn to the half way mark of the model – from the stern up to the middle on the starboard side or vice versa – depending on the draftsman of the plans. Therefore when you photocopy the frames; you have to photocopy them twice – one for portside of the frame and the other for the starboard side.

                      Now if you trace them – as long as you draw a centre line down the middle of your frame – the only thing you have to do is flip the tracing paper over, line it up with your previously drawn frame and draw the rest of the frame in – or, when you come to doing to transferring it onto the building material – flip the tracing paper over then – so you draw a complete frame using one piece of tracing paper.

                      NOTE that this is only on a certain plans which only have half frames drawn – some plans have the full frames drawn – to which the photocopying lends itself best to. If you do a websearch and go onto Mayhem – on there there are several topics in the masterclass build section – where the tracing of frames and the transferring to building materials is explained in greater detail. If you look on either the Cervia build/Spashett build or Fairy Swordsman builds.

                      aye

                      John

                      #45434
                      John W E
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                        @johnwe

                        my posting above, went on twice – I blame my computer surprise

                        Edited By bluebird on 07/12/2013 14:54:28

                        #45601
                        Bob Wilson
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                          @bobwilson59101

                          You don't have to copy them twice though! Just fold the plan over and cut it out and you end up with both halves. Even if you only have an A4 scanner, it is still big enough for quite a large frame. I always use cut up plans as template – saves a lot of hassle!

                          Bob

                          #45716
                          LARRY WHETTON
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                            @larrywhetton68737

                            Hi Simon,

                            Have look at my Brixham Trawler post to get some idea what i am on about..Larry

                            #56481
                            Antonio
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                              @antonio

                              Hi at all

                              I'm an italian modelist (I apologize for my elementary english)

                              My hobby it's re-drawing build plans from the original drawings, I'm expert of CAD, and isen't a problem riductions or enlargement in every scale, but I don't find information about boat named Trumpy Yachts.

                              I'm send mail at Trumpy yachts association, Moor Marine company, Smithsonians, Cheesapeake Museum, all unanswered.

                              Somebody have it, and can help me?

                              Best Greetings from Italy

                              Antonio

                              #56488
                              shipwright
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                                @shipwright

                                Antonio,

                                I had a quick look at the www – many full scale John Trumpy motor yachts for sale but I could not find any reference to plans. The only thing I did find was a poor quality outline plan – it gives oa length and you could work out your own plan from that :

                                **LINK**

                                **LINK**

                                Best of luck in your search for a set of plans – John Trumpy's luxury yachts are very elegant.

                                Ian

                                #56507
                                Antonio
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                                  @antonio

                                  Thank's Ian

                                  But the problem for draw the essential lines of the Trumpy Yachts, it's under the LW.

                                  Specially in the backward zone.

                                  We hope in a ……. little help from my friends.

                                  Antonio

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