Using cheap 6 channel Rxs in boats

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  • #77921
    Martin Field 1
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      @martinfield1

      Hi all, Like many, I suspect, I am on a fixed income and cannot justify paying more than necessary for Radio gear.

      I was wondering if many of you use the cheap (inevitably Chines) 6 channel Rxs, albeit for as few as 2 channel usage in boats. Also, even on the 3 channel pistol style sets, what do you use the 3rd channel for?

      Cheers,

      Martin

      #5530
      Martin Field 1
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        @martinfield1
        #77922
        harry smith 1
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          @harrysmith1

          flysky 3.jpgflysky 2.jpgHi Martin

          I have both the Hobbyking Turnigy IA6 and the Banggood Flysky I6, which are nearly the same except in naming.

          Both are very good units and I am very happy with them.

          Banggood have coloured knobs for the control sticks also a kit to make the IC throttle channel into self centering.

          flysky 1.jpg

          #77924
          Martin Field 1
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            @martinfield1

            FlySky seem very popular. I have just bought a 3 channel one and it worked immediately, being pre-bound.

            Thanks,

            Martin

            #77930
            Eddie Lancaster
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              @eddielancaster

              I too use the Fly Sky radios, I prefer the T6 over the i6, I found the i6 smaller and more 'plasticky' if you know what I mean, but the i6 does give you receiver voltage. I had to return an i6 due to a fault on channel 3 on the transmitter, but the T6 has been good so far! I also like the fact that you only need one transmitter for up to 20 boats, and the end point setting which is a great help when setting up a sail winch.

              Regards

              Eddie.

              #77931
              Martin Field 1
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                @martinfield1

                Thanks, Eddie,

                but is there any reason why you need more than 2 channels (what we used to call functions)? I've just bought a Flysky GT2b (I think!) and I can't imagine what I'd need the third channel for, never mind all 6!

                Martin

                #77934
                Kev.W
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                  @kev-w

                  I use 2 channels for the 2 props (tank steer), 1 channel for the additional rudders & channel 5 (which is rotary), to control the servo operated cam with 3 micro switches for radar & lighting smiley

                  Edited By Kip Woods on 05/07/2018 19:00:56

                  #77935
                  Martin Field 1
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                    @martinfield1

                    Ah, now I don't do working features, least of all lights, so I don't think in those terms. What is tank steer?

                    Martin

                    #77936
                    Eddie Lancaster
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                      @eddielancaster

                      You may only need 2 channels but modern 6 channel chips come just as cheap as 2 or 3, plus of course these sets are meant for car, plane or helicopter use hence all the gizmos on them.

                      I am building a Thames Sailing Barge at the moment so I may be able to use more than the 2 channels that I am using to sail Ardent.

                      Eddie

                      #77937
                      Martin Field 1
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                        @martinfield1

                        I think you have it in a nutshell there, Eddie. I bought the cheapest Rxs I could find. OK, they don't work, but that's a different matter, but both are 6 channel and I just don't see any being cheaper even if they were 2 channel.

                        I suppose it does no harm to have a few extras.

                        I just can't get either to bind to my DX5e or even the Flysky I just got, which works perfectly on its own Rx., prebound at the factory and just 20 quid, post paid!

                        Martin

                        #77939
                        Kev.W
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                          @kev-w
                          Posted by Martin Field 1 on 05/07/2018 19:36:48:

                          Ah, now I don't do working features, least of all lights, so I don't think in those terms. What is tank steer?

                          Martin

                          Tank steer, is when you have two motors independent from each other, my L/stick controls 1 & the R/stick controls the other, to go forward, push both sticks up, to go backward, pull both sticks down, if you push 1 up & the other down, you can spin the boat in it's own length smiley

                          #77940
                          Banjoman
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                            @banjoman

                            And it is called tank steering because that is, quite literally, how tanks (and other similar armoured vehicles, like troop carriers) are steered! Well, not through a RC t/x, of course, but by pulling and pushing on two sticks in front of the driver's seat. I once did the Tank Experience Day at Bovington, where one item on the programme is to get to drive an armoured vehicle around a training ground rough track. Huge fun, and a very effective way of controlling a vehicle once you get the hang of it.

                            Mattias

                            #77942
                            Martin Field 1
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                              @martinfield1

                              Yep, I get the idea now, just never heard of it as used with model boats.

                              Cheers,

                              Martin

                              #77944
                              Byron Rees…(Ron)
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                                @byronrees-ron

                                Hi Martin,

                                The far eastern electronics industry realised that it costs a lot less to just manufacture one receiver that fits all, instead of having multiple assembly lines in operation. It just makes sense and you can use whatever channels you have for anything you want. So there are rarely Boat/Car/Aircraft receivers now, they are all the same, usually 6 channel as well.

                                I tend to use Spectrum compatible Orange RXs which you can often buy for a £5.and I've had no problems with them.

                                As for what would you need them for?….Well, generally you don't need all them channels, but that is not the point, but if as Kip states you want Tank steering you have that option.

                                I often fit an electric steam producing unit in my models, and as they run off the main battery, I can switch it off when it runs out of water which is about 20 minutes out of a 45 minute running time.

                                I've also had cranes working, up, down, left, right and raise and lower, there's 3 more channels right away.

                                What about guns, left right, up down and even fire

                                How about if you want sounds or lights. One friend has an Adolph Bermpol, a german rescue boat with a small operational boat on the back. He can launch and recover the small boat, drive it and steer it as well as the mother ship, all from one transmitter and two receivers.

                                If you only want forward and reverse, left and right that's fine but you have the option to do much more, let your imagination run riot…..It's all just fun after all.

                                Ron Rees.

                                #77946
                                Tim Cooper
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                                  @timcooper90034

                                  Martin

                                  As Ron says it depends on your models, I have a 2, 6, 9 channel radios and a Futaba F14 Navy with an expansion module to give 2 proportional and 6 switched channels. I have a number of models with working features, hence the radios.

                                  The 9 channel is a Radio Link AT9 and is used for a German rescue cruiser, controlling the cruiser and the daughter boat from the one radio.

                                  Tim

                                  #77949
                                  Martin Field 1
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                                    @martinfield1

                                    Ah, all you working features fans. It's your model of course and if that's what blows yer frock up, fair enough. I just find working features to be rather corny and barely, if ever, worth the trouble. Sound is never convincing. Lights? Who sails at night normally? Smoke…looks like an old man having a crafty fag under the deck somewhere. Moving guns? Do they fire? If not, why move them. Radar, well that usually goes round all the time so doesn't need a separate channel. You all do military too. I hate military. I won't even do a Crash Tender with armaments, but that's my dislike of all militaria. I guess I just ain't yer normal model boater. I'll worry about drivers and crew figures and leave all the Gerry Anderson stuff to others.

                                    Cheers,

                                    Martin

                                    #77953
                                    Byron Rees…(Ron)
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                                      @byronrees-ron

                                      Whatever floats YOUR boat Martin,

                                      But while we are on the subject! you asked what could you use the 3rd channel for at the start, so here are a couple more, non-military suggestions…..The most fun at shows you can have is squirting the kids with a water cannon (or 4) and if you're into crew onboard, one of my Fairey Cabin cruisers has a steering captain who turns his head and a bikini clad sunbather sitting up and waving at the crowd, all with separate channels. I know of several clubs who have a summer night sailing regatta and they look amazing and are well attended.

                                      Everyone is different and should enjoy their hobby as they see fit, we are only answering your question after all.

                                      Ron R.

                                      #77954
                                      Martin Field 1
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                                        @martinfield1

                                        I think my problem is that I like making them, but operating them has always been fraught with problems (batteries, costs of stuff, etc.) and ultimately I find it a rather tedious pursuit, which is why I'm building yachts as they are more involving. I love all the chrome on classic speedboats, but in the end they just charge around and get wet where you don't really want them to.

                                        I would do aircraft but for the costs.

                                        Oh well, press on. How about accurate models of trials cars? Hmm…wrong subject for a boat forum<G> And no hills round here!

                                        Martin

                                        #77960
                                        Malcolm Frary
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                                          @malcolmfrary95515

                                          Depending on the type of yacht, 6 channels might be too restrictive. A great many class yachts can only use 2 channels, winch and steering, but even a tiny one like the Micro Magic has provision for a fore sail twitcher. If you then start into a working genoa rig and want to be able to do remote adjustments, you can soon run out of channels.

                                          But since a fairly typical 6 channel receiver that works with compatible transmitters offering less channels actually costs less than a pair of crystals did a very few years back (and less than a 27MHz 2ch RX), why worry?  The really annoying aspect of modern practice is the lack of compatibility, not only between manufacturers, but between ranges from a single manufacturer.  

                                          Edited By Malcolm Frary on 07/07/2018 10:21:25

                                          #77961
                                          Martin Field 1
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                                            @martinfield1

                                            I think just pulling the sails in and out and steering a yacht would be enough for me. Everything these days is cheaper than 27 Meg was, but I have several sets of 27 meg that still work fine, so will use those where I can.

                                            Thanks for all the replies.

                                            Cheers,

                                            Martin

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