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  • #68501
    BRYAN ASTON
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      @bryanaston57723

      Greetings all

      Launched the speed boat, went great , suddenly stopped going forward and went slowly in reverse, could not stop it no matter what I did, suddenly went forward again normally and then reversed, no control at all ,even no steering control, switching off the transmitter had no effect, had to be rescued by a row boat while slowly reversing, any clues???

      yours in anticipation

      Bryan

      #5452
      BRYAN ASTON
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        @bryanaston57723
        #68503
        Kev.W
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          @kev-w

          Plastic speed boat off Ebay?

          Cheap Chinese radio?

          Set up details of the boat might help us make a guess. wink

          #68504
          Charles Oates
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            @charlesoates31738

            I'm betting on low voltage to the receiver, it's dropping under load, cutting out, then recovering briefly. Regardless of whether they've been charged, check the voltage with a meter, under load.

            I'll also get that 70% of radio "faults" are due to the batteries.

            Chas

            #68505
            Dave Milbourn
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              @davemilbourn48782
              I'll also get that 70% of radio "faults" are due to the batteries.

              Chas

              Agreed! And of the rest, 90% are "Hardware/User Interface Conflicts"…… RTFM, guys – you don't have to admit it to anyone!
              Brown-out is my best guess for this one too, Chas.

              Bryan
              Do you have any sort of luck except the lousy kind?

              Dave M

              #68507
              Charles Oates
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                @charlesoates31738

                Flippin' auto correct. It cheeps changing my smelling!

                #68510
                BRYAN ASTON
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                  @bryanaston57723

                  Thank you all

                  I will let you know when I solve this problem, I have had this boat for around 18 months and it has never given me any problems before, the r/c equipment is Etronix, the battery was fully charged, when the boat was recovered I changed the battery for another fully charged one, and also changed the esc for another new unused one, same result.

                  Last week I took the tramp steamer to the pond, never had any trouble with it before ,got to the middle of the pond/lake dead stop ,no response at all, pushed to pond side by another boat, dragged it out, it turned out be faulty on/off switch

                  Do you think someone has got it in for me?

                  All will come right in the end

                  Bryan

                  #68512
                  ashley needham
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                    @ashleyneedham69188

                    You are not alone. Trevor at our pond bought something down today to test in the water. I worked perfectly in the bath last night (not that I was there to see it if you know what I mean) and today…….nowt…ESC sat there bleeping away to itself…

                    Ashley

                    #68517
                    Charles Oates
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                      @charlesoates31738

                      Hi again Bryan, even fully charged batteries can cause this problem, if one or more cells go bad, or the charger is miss set or faulty. To eliminate the possibility you need to check them under load as I suggested.

                      I'm assuming your radio is modern 2.4 gig, so the chance of interference can be ruled out.

                      Are the tx batteries ok?. Not a likely cause, but worth checking.

                      Next to look at is loose wires, plugs and with your rotten luck, the switch. Followed by a check of the aerial, is it undamaged, and above the waterline.

                      A slim chance, some radio sets have a power/ range reducing setting.

                      Good luck.

                      Chas

                      #68534
                      Malcolm Frary
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                        @malcolmfrary95515

                        The change of boat battery and ESC leaves the transmitter along with its battery and the wiring in the boat. For any movement of the boat, the ESC has to be getting a signal telling it what to do from somewhere, barring a faulty one. An ESC fault which does not cause a total lack of movement usually shows itself as permanent flat out in one direction or the other.

                        #68538
                        Charles Oates
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                          @charlesoates31738

                          Malcolm, I think the Etronix ESC has slow reverse as the default setting for loss of signal, but I could be wrong.

                          Bryan, fault finding is just a matter of strict methodology, follow a sequence, eleminating possibilities, and you'll get there.

                          #68543
                          Malcolm Frary
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                            @malcolmfrary95515

                            Having slow reverse as a no signal default seems strange for an ESC, but this might equate to slow forward on a forward only ESC, or a default no signal output on a receiver intended to work with a forward only ESC. Thinking like that results in the idea that either the transmitter isn't transmitting or the receiver isn't receiving, supported by the clue that switching the TX off did nothing.

                            2G4 is outside the range of normal, traditional interference, but as the band gets more and more use, other sources of signal blocking will appear. It is also very directional, so any loss of line of sight between TX antenna and RX aerial will reduce the signal. Being digital, it will work until it doesn't, when it will stop suddenly. It might take time to re-establish itself when connection is restored, just to increase confusion.

                            #68559
                            BRYAN ASTON
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                              @bryanaston57723

                              Greetings all

                              Changed trans and receiver to another Etronix setup ,changed battery to another ,motor seems to work ok, but rudder servo makes noises and thrashes side to side,any clues?

                              Bryan

                              #68560
                              Dave Milbourn
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                                @davemilbourn48782

                                Digital servo, is it?

                                #68562
                                BRYAN ASTON
                                Participant
                                  @bryanaston57723

                                  Dave

                                  I looked the servo up on the web and it is digital,

                                  Bryan

                                  #68564
                                  BRYAN ASTON
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                                    @bryanaston57723

                                    It is a Towardpro M996R servo as fitted when the boat was manufactured,

                                    Bryan

                                    #68573
                                    Dave Milbourn
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                                      @davemilbourn48782

                                      Just for fun, do you have a non-digital one with which you can replace it? Indulge me and my irrational prejudices, huh?

                                      DM

                                      #68576
                                      BRYAN ASTON
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                                        @bryanaston57723

                                        Dave

                                        I do not have a non digital servo to replace it , it is a very small and has to fit onto the original footprint and fit under the hatch, being plastic I cannot modify it.

                                        I have already sent off for a replacement to the PRofC where I assume the boat was built, it is costing me the sum of Just over £4.00 inc postage.

                                        The boat when I bought it off eBay it was just the hull ,it was badly damaged and all it had was the rudder servo in it everythingelse was stripped out, I repaired it and fitted it out with odd bits I had laying about, it always ran perfectly very fast . It will all come out ok in the end, onward and upward.

                                        My main problem st the moment is how to get the brushless high voltage esc I have installed in the big Huntsman to reverse the the Turnigy motor in the boat, I have come to the conclusion that I am totally useless in programming brushless escs

                                        Bryan

                                        #68577
                                        Dave Milbourn
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                                          @davemilbourn48782

                                          Bryan

                                          I asked because some digital servos have the tendency to shudder even when they're supposed to be stopped. I wondered if you had an ordinary one which you could just plug in to try and compare. That said, it might be faulty and the one you've ordered OK. For £4 it's not a big deal anyway.

                                          Speed controllers are a swine to program unless you have the appropriate programming card, when you just select the model type (aircraft, helicopter, car or boat) and it sets up reverse for you. The Fusion Hawk 30A ESC is a super little ESC and you can also get the card for not-a-lot – both from CMB. I can recommend it.

                                          Dave M

                                          #68578
                                          BRYAN ASTON
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                                            @bryanaston57723

                                            Dave and everybody else who has suggested solutions to my problem many thanks I will in due time let you know if I have solved the problem.

                                            Brushless escs that I have installed in the past have been no problem as they all seem to work ok in default programme, but not this one, I follow the instructions hear the various beeps , but how the hell do choose the what beeps that I want?

                                            Regards bryan

                                            #68579
                                            BRYAN ASTON
                                            Participant
                                              @bryanaston57723

                                              Sorry for the last sentence , a senior moment, but you know what I mean

                                              #68580
                                              Dodgy Geezer 1
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                                                @dodgygeezer1

                                                Typically, by moving the throttle channel stick on the transmitter up and down…

                                                #68588
                                                BRYAN ASTON
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                                                  @bryanaston57723

                                                  DG

                                                  Could you expand on the method of programming the esc by moving the throttle stick up and down on the trans.

                                                  Is there a sequence of some sort, or have Icompletely misunderstood your suggestion.

                                                  Bryan

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