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  • #78408
    Bob Wilson
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      @bobwilson59101

      First attempt at video – Bob

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      Bob Wilson
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        @bobwilson59101
        #78461
        Bob Wilson
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          @bobwilson59101

          Looks like yet another "damp squib" sadbut makes a change from more complicated models.

          Bob

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          #78463
          Glynn Guest
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            @glynnguest59245

            Bob,

            Please do not take the absence of any response for a lack of interest. I, probably like many others, take great pleasure in viewing your work even if I may never try to emulate you.

            In fact this latest model looks like it could form the basis of a simple yet attractive design for a working RC model. The layout is practical and it has a handsome appearance. But, I've too much on my plate at the moment for another model just yet but someone else….?

            Glynn Guest

            #78464
            Chris E
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              @chrise

              I too enjoyed your video. Again it is a branch of modelling that I do not undertake but that does not mean that I am not interested.

              I might also congratulate you on your camera work. The model was easily visible, in focus and not subject to those sea sick violent movements that so many videos exhibit. A few captions or a little narrative would be even better.

              #78465
              Bob Wilson
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                @bobwilson59101

                Thank you. The video was my first attempt, but I took care to move slowly, and the camera was on a tripod as well. I find it annoying when video camera movements take on the appearance of "a jelly on springs"face 1 I had thought of either saying something, or adding captions, but at that stage, there was not a lot to say. I would prefer captions, but at the moment, have no idea how to add them. Someone elsewhere gave me a free video editing download link, but when I put it in, it brought a whole lot of other "junk" with it that really messed up the computer operation and even stopped my Photoshop from working. It took me ages to get rid of it all, and return to normal. Over the years, I have got used to minimal response from fellow model shipbuilders, and it doesn't bother me a great deal, although I tend to put less on than I would if more interest was shown. But as I have often said, collectors are continually asking when the next will be ready, so I don't feel ignored by any means!smiley This little ship sailed regularly from Belfast to Preston (where I live) between 1891 and 1959, consequently, a lot of interest is being shown in the build on Facebook.

                Bob

                #78466
                Chris Fellows
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                  @chrisfellows72943

                  Bob – I took your reference to a damp squib to be as regards to the members at your club?

                  I have no intention of building static models but also take an interest in what you have built but don't post about it.

                  Chris

                  #78468
                  Bob Wilson
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                    @bobwilson59101

                    It is more than the club, it is generally across the whole spectrum of model shipbuilding. There are always a minority who like them, but they are few and far between. Someone on another forum recently told me that "merchant ships are not as sexy as warships!"smiley Can't figure that one out, how can you think something like HMS Devastation is sexy, but a pretty little merchant ship like Nina Bowater is not?face 3 – Bob

                    #78470
                    Colin Bishop
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                      @colinbishop34627

                      It's just a matter of perspective Bob. I am a keen student of naval history but I only tend to build non naval models. I am still very interested in naval technicalities up to and including WW2.

                      It's also true that people will look at and admire your work but not feel moved to post a compliment. That's life I'm afraid! Just as people are quick to complain but slow to praise.

                      Those of us who write for Model Boats rarely get any direct reader feedback. It just comes down to the sales figures in the end.

                      I build my models for my own satisfaction and have no interest in whether other people like them or not.

                      Colin

                      #78472
                      Bob Wilson
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                        @bobwilson59101

                        I do get a lot of feedback about what I write, but not from forums, exhibitions, or clubs with the models themselves. Being quite a "needy" sort of guy, I just can't summon up much enthusiasm to post "build logs" as they call them, with minimal or zero response. I no longer exhibit models at clubs or exhibitions for that reason. I do enjoy building them, but that will now be reducing. Not because no-one wants them – the demand is as high as ever, but following the destruction of the model of the barque Gulf Stream, I have decided against ever sending anything by courier ever again – not even in the UK! Sometimes, I think that collectors only want them because they are unusual, and even they seldom seem to show any interest in the histories of the ships, or what life was like aboard them. Indeed, a lot of them insist on calling them "boats" for reasons that have always escaped me!surprise I guess I am just a bit (or a lot) eccentric. I would like to keep them all, but the house is not big enough – the current model is number 276 since I started counting in October 1992. I may even move over to plan drawing instead, as I can keep all them, being flat. This is the latest. Only completed a week ago, and I am already getting "when are you going to build it? from collectors, but at the moment, I am not even contemplating it! But from fellow modelmakers, only casual glances, maybe with "that's nice" thrown in for politeness! surprise

                        Bob

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                        Edited By Bob Wilson on 15/08/2018 19:34:40

                        #78473
                        Ray Wood 3
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                          @raywood3

                          Hi Bob,

                          Don't worry about lack of feed back, I have had several designs publish in Model Boats as I feel it supports the hobby and my bank balance but seldom mentioned by my boat club mates ?? Where as when I was designing & building RC aeroplanes for RCM&E in the club I was a hero for the club maybe the achievement of flight !!

                          Enjoy your hobby

                          Regards Ray

                          #78478
                          Tim Cooper
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                            @timcooper90034

                            Bob

                            I enjoy looking at your models and I am amazed at the detail you manage at that size.

                            Don't think it's something I could do with my fingers. My wife would be delighted if my models were that size, though!

                             

                            Tim

                            Edited By Tim Cooper on 16/08/2018 11:22:52

                            #78479
                            Bob Wilson
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                              @bobwilson59101

                              I don't think I could manage it with my fingers either!smiley Most of the work is done with tweezers, and I don't often touch the small parts at all. Made these two lengths of ladders yesterday. Took about ten minutes. Each length has 34 soldered joints in it, but not particularly demanding work. I have an article coming up in Model Boats presently, explaining how to make miniature sailing ships. My wife paints the seas! – Bob

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                              #78487
                              Martin Field 1
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                                @martinfield1

                                Bob, as a lifetime professional modelmaker, I know how you feel. My younger grandson, who showed some interest a few years ago now has none at all, because he can sit and play tedious killing games on a pootah box. If he has no access to that he watches some older nerd's videos of playing kil,ling games on his 'phone. That's it, that's what he's interested in.

                                My interests, like yours seem to be of a minority sort. I like classic speedboats. I don't do military at all, but I do find some merchant ships attractive and your work, from a modelmaking point of view is an eye opener. Miniatures have always fascinated me. Those ladders are something special! It ain't the soldered joints that impress me. I can do them, it's drilling all those holes! For a professional, I'm crap at drilling holes, always have been! That's why I've never made a wire wheel for a car model!

                                More often than not my response to forums, clubs, etc. is, in the end, "Oh well, F*** 'em". You keep doing it because it's what blows your frock up. The rest? Their loss that they never developed your levels of skill.

                                And that one in the picture above? That's a potentially very pretty little ship. Please do finish it in your usual style.

                                I'm just surprised nobody has yet asked how you make those HUGE pens that sit next to your models<G>

                                Cheers,

                                Martin

                                #78489
                                Bob Wilson
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                                  @bobwilson59101

                                  Martin,

                                  Thanks, know what you meansmiley With the ladders, there aren't any little holes, the rungs are just soldered on. When fitted, they will just be glued on. Regarding the large pen – it goes with my large hands!wink

                                  Bob

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                                  #78491
                                  Martin Field 1
                                  Participant
                                    @martinfield1

                                    Man! Those are some BIG hands you got there, boss!

                                    So, what looks like the ends of the rungs (I'd supposed poking through lttle 'oles) are effectively UNDER the main ladder rails? Very effective and I'd never have known.

                                    May I ask what you use for rigging on your sailing ships? You get a lovely lazy droop to every line. And dare I ask…the blocks?

                                    Cheers,

                                    Martin

                                    #78492
                                    Bob Wilson
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                                      @bobwilson59101

                                      Yes, that is correct. I only noticed the ends of the rungs poking out after I took the photograph. No problem trimming them off before spray painting. Digital photography is especially useful fro this sort of thing, because you can see things that would normally have been missed. The rigging is fine copper wire, stretched slightly to make it go straight. To get a curve, stroke wire gently with finger and thumb – the greater the pressure, the greater the curve. The wire is picked up in the middle with fine teezers, each end dipped in glue and just placed in position on the model. No knots anywhere. The running blocks are small blobs of white wood glue mixed with a bit of acrylic paint to give it colour, and applied with a brush.

                                      Bob

                                      #78493
                                      Bob Wilson
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                                        @bobwilson59101

                                        small schooner in sea.jpgSmall schooner ready for sea – and same in sea – Bob

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                                        #78495
                                        Martin Field 1
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                                          @martinfield1

                                          Gorgeous! That's my kind of vessel.

                                          I don't wish to insult you in case they're cottons, but are the brails drawn on as I assume the sail cloth seams are?

                                          And is that a copper bottom or a very convincing paint? I hope you don't mind my questions.

                                          When I tell you I went to some trouble to get Lloyd McCaffery's book on miniatures, you'll know I'm an admirer of the genre.

                                          I used to spend hours looking at them at the old and real Model Engineer Exhibition. I also used to have a subscription to Model Shipwright, where John Bowen used to make merchantmen every issue.

                                          I've often thought of the possibilities of doing my mahogany hotrods in mniature, as I'm sure watching them go round in circles and figures of 8 wouldn't actually be that absorbing! But doing chrome deck fittings on one's thumbnail, might stretch the old eye sight a bit.

                                          Cheers,

                                          Martin

                                          #78496
                                          Bob Wilson
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                                            @bobwilson59101

                                            The seams on the sails are printed on both sides of the white airmail paper in light grey on the printer. I use light grey so they are not too prominent. The reef points are drawn on with a 6H pencil. The ship was so small that there were no brails, so I assume you are referring to the curved downhauls on the jib stays and the loops on the back of the two square sails (they are the lifts that support the yards when they are in the lowered position). The downlhauls and lifts are wire. The masts and rigging, including the ratlines, are 100% metal! The masts and spars being a c ombinaton of brass tube and rod, copper rod and silver steel rod. The rigging is all fine copper wire – I never use cotton or thread, and there are no knots anywhere. I wrote regularly for Model Shipwrigh for quite a number of years until they finally discontinued the publication in 2013. John Bowen died shortly after at the age of 99. The bottom of the ship was sheathed in yellow metal, so I used brass paint, but most of it is hidden under the sea (that my wife painted). My wife used to accompany me on long voyages from the UK to Cape Town and back aboard the passenger liner RMS St. Helena, so had plenty of time to study the sea in all its moods! The model is of the Julia, but at that stage, I hadn't put the nameplate on!

                                            Bob

                                            #78497
                                            Martin Field 1
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                                              @martinfield1

                                              Bob, as I typed brails I knew that was the wrong word, but could NOT think of the right one. I meant, of course, reef points, sorry.

                                              From that view, the brass paint looked very convincing. Have you ever tried copper tape? I use it for contact rails on my slot car tracks. Well, all two of them! Self adhesive and very cheap.

                                              I had no idea John Bowen was that old. I had seen him once at a meeting of the long since defunct Thames Ship Lovers' and Ship Model Society in a pub in London. Even then that was a sojourn. A London pub is a lugubrious place at best and getting home afterwards was always a risky affair. In those days Model Shipwright was a dream and John Blight was the secretary. Through him I got my first commission…a WW1 Galleas, become sand barge, Peterna for Civil and Marine in Maldon.

                                              I take it you are an ex Merchant seaman?

                                              Martin

                                              #78498
                                              Bob Wilson
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                                                @bobwilson59101

                                                rms windsor castle 1973 repairing radar.jpg

                                                I do have a supply of copper tape that I use when applicable, but most of my models are of iron or steel ships. Yes, I was merchant navy from 1959 to late 1992, serving in a total of 19 ships from colliers to passenger liners. Here are three photos at various stages of my sea career. Aboard the collier Wandsworth in 1962, servicing the main radar installation aboard the passenger liner RMS Windsor Castle in 1973 and my last few days at sea aboard the RMS St. Helena in October 1992!

                                                Bob

                                                wandsworth 1962 (medium) (medium).jpg

                                                final days at sea (medium).jpg

                                                #78499
                                                Martin Field 1
                                                Participant
                                                  @martinfield1

                                                  Very smart.

                                                  And an Avo meter too! Of which I and my No. 2 son have three all in! Love the office carpet!

                                                  Cheers,

                                                  Martin

                                                  #78501
                                                  Bob Wilson
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                                                    @bobwilson59101

                                                    I still use an AVO myself that I got from a car boot sale a few years ago for £5. I find that for certain applications, it is easier to interpret the movement of a needle rather than try and follow scrambling figures on a digital meter!smiley In the last picture, I was repairing a telephone, and a passenger took the photo and posted it to me later. A few days later, we docked in Falmouth, and that was the end of my sea career. The ship about two years old at the time, and carried on until earlir this year when it was sold at the age of 28 years. It is now helping with the war against piracy in Somali waters. Now very famous and hundreds and hundreds of images if you put RMS St. Helena in Google search – Bob

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