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    danny bament
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      @dannybament91826

      Hi all, I have been browsing on here for a week and am embarking on a small build with my son. this is the kit we have bought Model Tug kit By Amera Mouldings for micro R/C | eBay.

      now i know it's not traditional , but it seemed a good place to start. The main advice would be on the RC package, but any advice is welcome. The kit instructions advise a 6" radio active stern tube with a 25mm propeller and a 3v motor, it also says an all in one drive system or standard brass tubes and couplings could work.

      I would love some guidance to point me in the right direction, from some of the posts i've read that have pointed me to different suppliers like Howes etc but i don't want to buy the wrong thing. Ideally it would be great if I could purchase a complete package but will ultimately be guided initially by feedback from here.

      I'm here to learn and have no issue with researching more if needed. anyway, that's it for now and look forward to hearing from you all and sharing my progress.

      Danny

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      #3045
      danny bament
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        @dannybament91826
        #99070
        Dave Cooper 6
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          @davecooper6

          Hi Danny and welcome to the forum.

          As a 'starter-for-ten', could you post some details of size and weight, plus internal construction space :-

          Length ? (bow to stern)

          Beam ? (across the middle)

          Draft ? (bottom to deck)

          Internal ? (plastic, wood, engine mounts etc…)

          I'm not a tug man myself but there are some experts here to help,

          Regards,

          Dave

          #99073
          Ray Wood 3
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            @raywood3

            Hi Danny,

            If you have a look at the Cornwall Model Boats website under Hardware & accessories you will find the Radio Active propshaft & propellor set for £4.22

            For a small tug like this there is no need for an expensive coupling some silicone tube will be ok and a brushed 280 size motor will be fine.

            Radio is cheap these days, let us know if you need more guidance on speed controllers & batteries.

            Regards Ray

            #99079
            danny bament
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              @dannybament91826

              Hi Dave and Ray thanks for the replies.

              length: 365mm

              Beam: 120mm

              Draft: 100mm

              it is a vacuum molded styrene and weight is minimal so I am imagining that i may need some ballast but will need to check after the hardware has been installed. i was thinking of making the mounting platform from balsa to aid fixing.

              I would love advice on what to get with regards to radio and speed controllers etc. It is a shame they don't do a complete kit for these types of things but i guess that's part of the fun , ensuring that none are exactly alike. I'm not even sure what the correct glue is for styrene lol.

              thanks again!

              #99080
              Dave Cooper 6
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                @davecooper6

                There you go Danny – Ray's a tug expert !

                The only thing I would add is that, if it's very small, you'll need calm water and very good eyesight. It's surprising how they seem to 'shrink' when out in the middle of a lake…

                Happy building,

                Dave

                #99081
                danny bament
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                  @dannybament91826

                  This is what i've kind of earmarked so far . i apologise if im spamming too much on my 1st few posts, lol. just tell me if i'm getting too much.

                  REF DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
                  MA3054Mini Coupling Sleeve 2-2.3mm (5) £3.90 £3.90
                  MA3046Radio Active 152mm (6in) Shaft/Tube 3Bl 30mm Prop £3.52 £3.52
                  BM0280Billing Boats 280 Motor £11.06 £11.06
                  M724MFA 140/260/280 Motor Mount Bracket £2.41 £2.41
                  VIP10MMtroniks MicroViper Marine 10 Electronic Speed Controller £26.91 £26.91
                  RDNAC010001Deans Connector Set 5 Pairs £2.49 £2.49
                  CMBRCPRadio Control 2.4ghz Package Set inc Servo Batteries & Charger £67.91 £67.91
                  Subtotal £118.20
                  VAT £23.64
                  Total £141.84
                  #99083
                  Ray Wood 3
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                    @raywood3

                    sunny.jpgHi Danny,

                    Yes your on the right track with your choices that just leaves the battery I'd go for a 2 cell 7.4volt Lipo 1200mah capacity, or rechargeable AA Pencells in a holder.

                    The main issue with a small displacement hull is to get the weight as low down as possible, you can have a trial run once you have all the gear on board to see how much ballast you will need.

                    Polystyrene cement should be suitable for the plastic to plastic joints, I would use a 5 minute epoxy for the stern tube, balsa is fine for a motor mount with a couple of pegs and an elastic band to hold the motor in place.

                    You will also need a small commercial rudder/tiller which you can cut to shape to suit your tug.

                    Here is one I made a couple of years ago,sunxxi 1.jpg about the size of your tug 15" long

                    PS, you don't need the separate motor mount, the motor has one already  

                    PPS, just noticed the radio you have noted comes with a Sub C  battery pack which is far to heavy for you tug, hence my comments.

                    The Carson radio & servo is excellent choice I have several should cost about £40.00

                    Regards Ray

                    Edited By Ray Wood 2 on 09/01/2022 20:16:13

                    Edited By Ray Wood 2 on 09/01/2022 20:17:09

                    Edited By Ray Wood 2 on 09/01/2022 20:22:57

                    #99085
                    danny bament
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                      @dannybament91826

                      ahh that looks great Ray! thanks for the advice and i'll change the battery to something more suitable.

                      #99086
                      ashley needham
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                        @ashleyneedham69188

                        Danny. Can’t open the link on my iPad, but mosT esc need 6v minimum to operate, and mainly as they give out 5v to power the receiver.

                        With this in mind, a 3v 280 may struggle so you will need a 6+v capable motor. If you use a 7.2 (6 cell) AA pack then even a 12-24v 280 would do.

                        Although the radioactive propshafts are cheap and light, the actual wire shaft is not rustproof, and experience using them on our landing craft (initially to keep costs down) has showed they need regular dismantling and re-greasing to last any length of time. I have since changed all mine, but given regular maintenance yours should be ok.

                        Ashley

                        #99093
                        danny bament
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                          @dannybament91826

                          Thanks for the advice Ashley, the 280 motor listed doesn't seem to list the specified voltage ( i stupidly thought that all 280 motors are equal), i will double check before purchasing to make sure all components are compatable.

                          Danny

                          #99095
                          Ray Wood 3
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                            @raywood3

                            Hi Danny,

                            I think the reference to 3 volts is only in your original post referring to a small motor as the manufacturers recommendation, I'm sure the 280 motor will take 7.2 volts ok , as you say no spec on the web

                            The big issue here is it's a very small boat to put all this expensive gear into.

                            Regards Ray

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