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  • #55466
    Matthew B
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      @matthewb78704

      Hey Guys,

      Created a different thread for the 3D printer stuff!

      Look what just came together!img_1827.jpgimg_1828.jpgimg_1829.jpg

      Intakes are great but has anyone had any experience with these jet motors? They seem pretty weak, any suggestions? Batteries, nozzles?

      Edited By Matthew B on 26/01/2015 20:44:50

      #2464
      Matthew B
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        @matthewb78704
        #55503
        Matthew B
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          @matthewb78704

          New idea for front cannon for the front of a fast attack craft!Cannon for front of attack craftCannon for front of attack craftCannon for front of attack craftCannon for front of attack craftCannon for front of attack craft

          #55506
          Bob Abell 2
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            @bobabell2

            Hello Matthew

            Have you created any useful item that illustrates the special versatility of your 3D printer?

            The big boys are making full size cars now?

            How can a 3D printer, produce a ball bearing, complete with balls and cages…..In one go?

            It`s almost Witchcraft!

            Bob

            #55510
            Matthew B
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              @matthewb78704

              Hey Bob,

              Yeah, i did see a video of someone who made a full car! Very cool indeed.

              For the moment i am having to save up for some more PVA because it is almost twice as expensive at the other types of filament.

              Until i can buy some to can make more complex designs i can only print none moving items

              However, this video demonstrates the problems of trying to print moving parts without the use of PVA.

              This guy has one of the older single nozzle printers so it having to manually clean the bearings up whereas if i could get some pva i would be able to print those bearings without any of the clear up When i get hold of some PVA i will be sure to show you what it can do!

              Here is an example of what can be done when you can PVA!

              Matthew

              #55522
              Bob Abell 2
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                @bobabell2

                Absolutely gobsmacking technology………I wish I was ten years younger!

                There`s going to be massive changes to our life style pretty soon

                See here……

                **LINK**

                Bob

                #55573
                Matthew B
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                  @matthewb78704

                  Hey Bob,

                  Yeah, it is very impressive! Soon you won't ever order items online to be delivered but will order the files to be printed!

                  It is going to be a very interesting next few years!

                  Matthew

                  #55574
                  Tony Hadley
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                    @tonyhadley

                    3D printers are now making houses in China. Bricklayers no longer required!

                    **LINK**

                    Tony

                    #55577
                    Bob Abell 2
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                      @bobabell2

                      By adding 2 and 2 together ……I get 4 1/2 in terms of 3D printing!…..Which really means that I don't really know what I'm talking about!

                      It seems that the printers build up the object with successive layers of hot plastic and should a loose item be required, then the nozzle applies a further substance, called PVA, which divides the object to be made into several pieces, but during the printing process, the object stays as a solid item

                      After the printing process, the object is placed in cold water, whereby, the PVA dissolves and the object separates into the required loose items

                      That's strange!……My nose has grown 2" longer!

                      Am I getting warm, Matthew?

                      Bob

                      #55589
                      Len Morris 2
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                        @lenmorris2

                        Hi Mathew and Bob,

                        First, a bit of a story. At this point in my career I'm a Toolmaker. It's a safe Haven in East Lancashire unless I choose to fire up my professional qualifications and move abroad. At work I run and program CNC lathes and millers and also do all the welding (mig, tig and stick – ferrous and non-ferrous). Enter Mr Health and Safety. A bright young man with an agenda!

                        "Hi Len, know you do an excellent job but need copies of your certificates for the file just in case something goes wrong and exposes the company to litigation".

                        What! They all went AWOL years ago!

                        Solution? The company enrolled me on a NVQ2 course at Burnley college! At the age of 62 I am now 3 months into a Themis apprenticeship course! One evening a week and half a day release with pay. Pig in muck!

                        I've just started the CAD element. The conclusion is that you print your own 3D design.

                        The kit at Burnley college is outstanding and very much at the cutting edge. The demonstration pieces they show students are quite mind boggling (a fully working adjustable spanner is just one example).

                        Apparently the 'powder' has a limited shelf life so once the machine is loaded they are happy to print off no end of designs.

                        To pass the course you only have to print a 3D brick. My personal objective is to do left and right hand props for Resurgam at various pitches so I need to focus on the CAD bit.. I am absolutely sure that the way of the future is 3D printing. The king of the hill will be he who can write the program, not particularly own the machine.

                        Bob, you are dead right about printing interlocked bits, simply print somert that dissolves between them.

                        Yours, the 62 year old apprentice,

                        Len

                        #55632
                        Matthew B
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                          @matthewb78704

                          Hello all,

                          Sorry havn't been active on the forum, been busy!

                          Bob you are spot on about how the printers work! Your nose shouldn't of grown at all

                          Len, You sound like you have been through a bit of traumatic experience with good old health and safety! It is now really bad in school too, stupid stuff like one week we did a science experiment to demonstrate polymerisation. Basicly we ended up making these squishy balls out of PVA glue! Nothing sinister just PVA glue but we weren't allowed to take the balls home because apparently we could hurt someone with it; PVA glue! Although annoying; my experience sound insignificant compared to your ordeal.

                          There were a few things you said above which i wasn't quite sure on and was wondering if you could fill me in so i can see if i can help in any way with your 3D printing/CAD!

                          "The kit at Burnley college is outstanding and very much at the cutting edge. The demonstration pieces they show students are quite mind boggling (a fully working adjustable spanner is just one example).

                          By cutting edge are you talking about the CAD software or the machines? Dependent; could you explain why they were so cutting edge?

                          To pass the course you only have to print a 3D brick. My personal objective is to do left and right hand props for Resurgam at various pitches so I need to focus on the CAD bit.. I am absolutely sure that the way of the future is 3D printing. The king of the hill will be he who can write the program, not particularly own the machine.

                          You said, to pass the course you only need to print a brick? How do they expect you to do this and on what software? Also if you are struggling with it i will be happy to help Finally the props for Resurgam, a very interesting project! If you are doing it in AutoCAD i would be happy to help also!

                          P.s Bob the boat is coming along great! Just fitting the back manifold then i will be ready to post a photo

                          Matthew

                          #55640
                          Len Morris 2
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                            @lenmorris2

                            Hi Matthew,

                            Thanks for that. I think I am very lucky. Because of HSE I'm now a student a Burnley college on really interesting courses and get no end of discounts when I wave my student card at the local shops. Such is life!

                            The CAD is the latest versions of Solid Works or VISI. In class we all have our own terminals and screens. I don't know much yet about the 3D printer but it is the size of about 2 washing machines and about 6 months old. Might not be 'cutting edge' but must be very close.

                            I was being a bit trite when I said 'printing a brick'. The object of the course is to show command of the software and print a basic 3D component. Then you pass. Drawing and printing props might take some time!

                            Len

                            #55643
                            Matthew B
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                              @matthewb78704

                              Hi Len,

                              Maybe HSE are that bad after all! Wow! two washing machines! That is a big one, you should be able to print anything on that! 6 months is pretty cutting edge.

                              The CAD software i am using is AutoCAD 2015 which seems to work well but im not sure if it is similar to solid works but i will try help if you need. There are plenty of good videos showing all the concept even if the videos aren't on the specific software package you are using.

                              Here is an example of someone making a prop:

                              Learning to do props is what i will be doing after i finish my manifold project so we can trouble shoot through it together!

                              Matthew

                              #55645
                              Bob Abell 2
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                                @bobabell2

                                D`you know, Matthew, I find it extremely difficult to believe that you are only 14 years of age!

                                What are your future plans for further education and employment etc, if I`m not intruding on your private life?

                                I think you have a brilliant future!

                                Messing about with model boats is a surprise…..What are your other hobbies?

                                Bob

                                #55651
                                Matthew B
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                                  @matthewb78704

                                  Bob I am flattered!

                                  No your not intruding at all! Umm at the moment i am studying all the core subject English, Maths, RS ect. I would be taking a humanities subject (geography or history) but i did it 2 years early last year and this year i am taking science and maths early. Then in addition to those i am studying computing, electronics and business to take next year with the rest of the core stuff.

                                  Then if all goes well i will take Physic, Maths, Computing and Business for A-Level with the aim of leaving my options open for Computer science/Software engineering or mechanical engineering. Then if i pass my A-Levels with flying colours i would take a hybrid degree in mechanical and software engineering or just software depending which i like more at that time and then do the degree at the best university my grades will allow

                                  Model boats have been a very recent discovery (you can probably tell by my lack of knowledge!). I am quite a keen rugby player (captained the school team for a while and won the district league; i was a second row for a while but now play number 8). I used to swim quite competitively. However i have since given up swimming because i got to the stage where the coaches weren't interested in you unless you wanted to take it further (from 7 hours to 11hours a week minimum); which to be quite honest didn't interest me in the slightest. I would rather be studying/honing my skills as an engineer.

                                  So after all that here i am now! using a 3D printer to sculpt parts for a model boat! I find it interesting mainly because it is the one thing that really uses all my brain power to do and is a great engineering challenge.

                                  I apologise for such a long reply! You are probably board to death by the time you get to the end

                                  Matthew

                                  #55652
                                  Bob Abell 2
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                                    @bobabell2

                                    Thank you Matthew

                                    Nice to see that you have sensible plans for your future

                                    All the best

                                    Bob

                                    #55653
                                    Matthew B
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                                      @matthewb78704

                                      Thanks Bob

                                      Hello all,

                                      Would i mind if i asked you about the next stage of my build?

                                      So far i have the 2 motors fitted with the intakes, as you have seen in previous posts. Now i have the outake tubes all done and the jet nozzles done to just need to drill a hole and we will be up and running. However, i know the 2 jet motors aren't going to get this boat going as fast as it needs to go so i have this :img_1859.jpg

                                      This is a motor from a 2-3 foot long helicopter It is quite old but is powerful! The question is how powerful? Is there any way of checking what exact power it is?

                                      Leading onto my next question. What type of propeller should i print? Pitch, diameter, number of blades? I am very novice at an understanding level (as you know!) and was wondering if you could fill me in so i can manufacture the parts for max acceleration and speed!

                                      Matthew

                                      p.s.

                                      Look at the hellfire missle i just made!

                                      hellfire missle

                                      #55658
                                      ashley needham
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                                        @ashleyneedham69188

                                        Matt. Unless you can find some specs from googling your motor then you can only guess as to the likely power and revs/volt. It is probably a hottie, but again, for any can size there are motors from wimp to he-man.

                                        Great hellfire missile. This is the way to go for small parts.

                                        Regarding the jets;  Using a high Kv brushless motor will max out the thrust as these jet drives do need lots of revs, probably more revs than your current motor will deliver. The nozzles as far as I know have a decreasing area (they get thinner) towards the outlet to give more speed to the outgoing water. This may be an area for experimentation if you do not have nozzles on them yet. You may have sufficient thrust here. Try before making changes. In fact, try the boat out before going into the build too much in case some changes need to be made.

                                        Ashley

                                        Edited By ashley needham on 01/02/2015 17:15:55

                                        #55663
                                        Matthew B
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                                          @matthewb78704

                                          Hey Ashley,

                                          Thanks for the advice!

                                          Yes the hellfire is pretty cool; im thinking i might put them on a little air cannons for a cool realistic safe way of making them fire!

                                          The motors on the jets are pretty pathetic so changing them would probably be wise; as you said. However with the addition of the heli motor i think the jets will add more looks than they will add power So changing the jets will only be if the heli motor doesn't provide the acceleration i am hoping for.

                                          With the nozzles i have created a modular outtake system so that i can interchange each element such as the outboard mount, nozzles, jet mounts and output tubing. I will have a little play around once i drill the holes and see what difference each type of nozzle makes and feed back to you!

                                          Matthew

                                          p.s. just finished my water cooled heli motor mount! it has a holo coil wrapping around it which will have water running through it. Which is all incased in a nicely tapered box! Now just have to wait 4 hours for it to print.

                                          motor3.jpgmotor2.jpgmount1.jpg

                                          #55711
                                          Matthew B
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                                            @matthewb78704

                                            Hey guys,

                                            Water cooling mount works 'ish' Needs some modification if it will function on a boat however i will probably build a simpler air cooled one because plastic isn't a great conductor of heat so even with water cooling i don't think is will sufficiently cool it. The air cooled mount should be easier to make anyways

                                            This leads to my next question: For a boat that i want to go fast and on a plane what angle should i put the motor/prop at? Where should the rudder go? and how big a prop and rudder should i use?

                                            any suggestions would be most appreciated

                                            Matthew

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