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14 April 2014 at 08:28 #48203
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
I have just removed all the R/C equipment from one boat and installed it in another one, now the steering control on the transmitter works the speed control and the speed control works the steering, how can I correct this obvious error. As I have stated in my previous correspondence in the forum I have only started building boats since last August, I have built two boats now but I have no idea about R/C.

HELP

Regards

Bryan Aston
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14 April 2014 at 08:28 #2384
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
I have got it wrong
14 April 2014 at 09:17 #48204
Colin Bishop
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@colinbishop34627
It sounds as if you have plugged the speed control and rudder servo leads into the receiver the wrong way round. Try swapping them over.

Colin
14 April 2014 at 14:31 #48207
ashley needham
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@ashleyneedham69188
easy mistake to make. i usually plug one lead in the battery socket. Takes me ages to find out whats wrong. Ashley
15 April 2014 at 08:57 #48219
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Many thanks to Colin and Ashley,I have now crossed over the leads and all is well. It is easy when you know how.

I am learning.

Regards

Bryan Aston
15 April 2014 at 10:04 #48221
Dave Milbourn
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@davemilbourn48782
Bryan
In the words of the great Douglas Adams "Don't panic!". There is nothing complicated about radio control – all the clever stuff has been done for you and hidden away inside little boxes. All you need is a bit of common sense and some basic knowledge. Allow me to recommend an article which might assist……. **LINK** The last section actually covers your recent problem.
Dave M
15 April 2014 at 17:38 #48223
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Thank you Dave for your help, I have reread your article and is does deal with my problem, as the old saying goes when all else fails read the instructions. I am now up and running.

My first boat was a scratch built Sea Commander , to my surprise it did not sink and it goes very well. The second is a 46 inch Huntsman built from a kit , I had more trouble building that, than the scratch built Commander, its first trial is next Sunday.

many thanks

bryan
19 May 2014 at 17:57 #49012
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings all

Any suggestions for the size of brushless motor I require to improve the performance of my 46 inch huntsman,

at the moment its running on a Graupner 600 speed which appears to me to perform very well but according to the experts it would run better with a brushless motor, your help would much appreciated as I have no idea..

bryan
19 May 2014 at 18:05 #49013
Bob Abell 2
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@bobabell2
Try this, Bryan….

**LINK**

Bob
20 May 2014 at 17:02 #49018
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings Bob

Thank you for the answer via the link, I had never heard of the company but it has solved my problem.

Many thanks

Bryan
20 May 2014 at 17:43 #49020
Bob Abell 2
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@bobabell2
Bryan

If you use these Brushless motors, we would be very interested in your progress and results etc

Refer to my Ellie thread for my trials and tribulations with the same motors

Bob
28 May 2014 at 17:53 #49219
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings all

As you may know by reading my many queries I have built two boats during my short time in this hobby, both go very well but they are very noisy, I can hear the motors from the other side of the lake, are all model power boats very noisy or have I done something wrong. Should I mount the motors on a rubber base to deaden the vibration, any suggestions would be most welcome.

bob

If I do fit brushless motors to them I will let you know the outcome, I did not realise how expensive the equipment is,

I cannot see how the prices can be justified as they only consist of a rotor and a number of field coils or have I got it wrong.

regards

Bryan
28 May 2014 at 19:04 #49224
lnvisibleman
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@lnvisibleman
Bryan

Sounds like you do not have the motor and propshaft correctly aligned or you have not greased the propshaft.

I'm sure one of the resident gurus will get back to you on this in a while.

I take it that you have a universal between motor and shaft ?

Mike
29 May 2014 at 08:50 #49232
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings Mike

Thank you for your quick reply, yes I have oiled the prop shaft with engine oil as there is a school of thought that greasing the shaft clogs it up, who knows . Yes I have fitted a universal joint to both boats, I have yesterday realigned the shaft I will see if there is an improvement at the next launching this Sunday.

I would like to hear any thoughts on Powerflex couplings as they are supposed to be quieter.

Regards

Bryan
29 May 2014 at 09:03 #49234
lnvisibleman
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@lnvisibleman
Bryan

I have tried most types of coupling in my short modelling career and have found that these are brilliant !

**LINK**

I find that their main advantage is that they can be cut to the required length and have no parts that wear out like those plastic universals

Mike
29 May 2014 at 16:09 #49245
Paul Freshney
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@paulfreshney24971
If space is ever at a premium, then Robbe Centring couplings (Cornwall Models, Engel etc.) mean you can have a coupling that can accommodate up to 5 degrees of misalignment in a total length of less than an inch, including the bosses, which are obtainable for all the common propshaft and motor output shaft sizes.

Mike's suggested couplings are indeed excellent, being virtually silent as well, a hidden benefit.

Paul Freshney

Paul Freshney
29 May 2014 at 18:57 #49250
ashley needham
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@ashleyneedham69188
The couplings themselves are unlikely to be noisy unless horrendously out of line.

I am afraid you will have to go through the usual checklist and replace items to find the issue.

propshaft/coupling/motor alignment; motor not secured properly; propshaft not adjusted for minimum play; play in shaft bearings; prop thrust being taken up by motor and not outer shaft bearing; dry shaft bearings (drip of oil) coupling not drilled dead true; propeller out of balance (try different); something touching coupling; actually something else vibrating..hatches and so on.

Ashley
29 June 2014 at 08:09 #49965
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings all

To save removing all the r/c equipment from one boat to another every time I change boats I have bought another compatible receiver and another speed controller, when I connected it all up nothing happened ,the lights lit up and the speed controller started flashing a red light, but the motor did not run, as I cannot find the instructions that came with the r/c transmitter do I have to tune the speed controller to the transmitter and if so how?

Your assistance would be much appreciated..

Regards

Bryan Aston
29 June 2014 at 08:17 #49966
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
PS.

I cured the noisy transmission I complained about by fitting a flexible coupling to both boats and filing the red universal joints to the WPB.

Regards

Bryan
29 June 2014 at 09:52 #49970
Andy C
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@andyc56856
Hi Brian

What Transmitter and receiver are you using. Is it 2.4GHz. If so, you may need to pair the receiver to the transmitter. Knowing what make it is will help.

Regards

Andy
29 June 2014 at 16:33 #49984
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Greetings Wraith Leader

Thank you for the quick reply. The transmitter is a ETRONIX PULSE 2.4 GHZ FHSS 2 channel.

The receiver is a ETRONIX PULSE 2.4 GHZ FHSS 3 channel.any advice would be most welcome.

Regards

Bryan
29 June 2014 at 16:42 #49985
Andy C
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@andyc56856
Looking on the Etronix website for manuals, found the procedure as follows.
1. Turn on receiver
2. keeping the binding button pressed (possible on the receiver or TX, can't tell which) plug in the RX power supply. The light should turn green.
Once done, you should not need to do it again.

Let us know how you get on.

Andy
29 June 2014 at 17:06 #49986
BRYAN ASTON
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@bryanaston57723
Thank you Andy

When I discover what the binding button is I will try your suggestion out I will let you know how I get on.

I am complete novice with radio control.

Thanks again

Bryan
29 June 2014 at 18:05 #49989
Colin Bishop
Moderator
@colinbishop34627
The binding button should be on the receiver: **LINK**

Colin
3 July 2014 at 11:25 #50078
BRYAN ASTON
Participant
@bryanaston57723
Hello Colin & Andy

I finally got round to tuning in the receiver as you both suggested,a painfull back stopped play . I must admit I have never noticed the Binding button before as the previous setup was done by someone else. However I followed the instructions and got the receiver light to show green, great stuff, but the motor will not run, I get growling sounds but it will not run, nor will the rudder move. Any Ideas?

Regards

Bryan
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