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    brian bolivia
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      #48179
      brian bolivia
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        hi,

        i'm planning to use graupner mz 18 or futaba 10ja transmitter on my smit rotterdam tug boat. i'm using brushed motors with bow thrusters, smoke generator, fog horn and deck lights and planning all to be controlled remotely. would these type of radios be compatible?

        #48180
        shipwright
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          Hello Brian,

          I had a quick look on the internet the Graupner MZ18 seems to have 9 channels and the Futaba 10JA seems to have 10 channels – so both would probably be ok. I don't know whether you are in uk or not. If in uk you can use the 40 MHz FM band and Robbe sell a twin stick RC system (Robbe F14 Navy ) specifically for boats and offers (with options) many switched channels in addition to several proportional channels. However it is NOT 2.4 GHz spread spectrum and therefore you would need to check that you are not on someone else's channel when at the pondside.

          Ian

          #48181
          Dave Milbourn
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            If you want a radio on 2.4GHz with all these functions then don't waste your money on an aircraft/helicopter radio. This is THE radio **LINK**
            I'm currently saving like mad for one!

            DM

            #48184
            brian bolivia
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              Hi Dave,

              thanks for that link but its way too out of my budget, i am currently in saudi arabia so not much of an issue with specific frequency to use for boats, are there specific 2.4ghz radios 6 channels up that are good for boats?

              #48185
              mike farrell
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                Hi Brian ,Well you can do all you want with a decent 6 Channel Radio and a 4 channel sequential unit from Mr R.C World @around £24

                It works off a switch which you throw repeatedly to set up each want to control You get a set of instructions which makes it simple to use. I have one on my Lifeboat to control radar riding lights interior and navigation lights. The Company are very helpful if you have a problem as they are on the phone every day. Hope that helps

                PS you can get them on Ebay

                Michaelwink

                #48186
                brian bolivia
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                  hi mike,

                  thank you for that one, will do some research again which 6 ch radio to pick. do you have any specific radio you can recommend? thanks

                  brian

                  #48188
                  Dave Milbourn
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                    If you want to go 2.4GHz then the Hitec Optic 6 is a very good value computer radio @ around £110. **LINK**

                    The Robbe-Futaba F16 Truck and Boat radio (40MHz) is more flexible. If you avoid the Navy Twinstick version – which IMHO is a waste of money especially if you're going to use a bow thruster – then you can obtain the basic 6-channel set from Alexander Engels for 200 Euros **LINK**. This can be expanded by fitting switch modules to the Tx.

                    The ACTion P62 Quadswitch sounds very similar to the Mr RC World unit (which I've not seen).

                    Dave M

                    #48195
                    Andy C
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                      Hi Dave

                      Just had a quick look at the P62. is this a way of adding extra channels (hence lights etc) to your orginal 4 or 5 channel set?

                      Regards

                      Andy

                      #48198
                      brian bolivia
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                        thank you all for your suggestions, guess the 6 ch would be sufficient enough and just ordered one graupner from CMB today. I'll try it first on my P44, but yes you are all right i could have considered that P62 quadswitch instead. well there's still enough room for it.

                        #48201
                        Dave Milbourn
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                          Posted by Wraith Leader on 13/04/2014 18:52:56:

                          Hi Dave

                          Just had a quick look at the P62. is this a way of adding extra channels (hence lights etc) to your orginal 4 or 5 channel set?

                          Regards

                          Andy

                          It uses one spare proportional channel to operate up to four separate circuits. It won't work with a 2-way switched channel (e.g. retracts).

                          #63758
                          Ron Sindric
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                            Hello,

                            I am a rank beginner who is interested in a Tug to go after his T37 Sailboat if it becomes disabled and can not return tome under its own power. I have chosen a kit called a TWIN TUGSTER:

                            **LINK**

                            But have yet to select propulsion and power for my Tug. Radio control will behandled by a SPEKTRUM DX18 and one of their AR400 DSMX 4-Channel Receivers:

                            **LINK**

                            **LINK**

                            Most likely, I will use a pair of 6vDC sealed gel cell batteries from the manufacturer of the kit:

                            **LINK**

                            Now comes the heart of my quandry —> motor / motors and a speed controller ( ESC here in the States ). I think I would like a single brushed inrunner low rpm high torque 12 vDC motor running a gearbox to drive two propeller shafts and maybe even a servo controlled clutch. A set-up with a single motor would require a single ESC while a two-motor set-up would require two ESCS. Am I correct. As to the matter of cooling, ZIPPKITS sells an ESC water cooler and I am sure I can get a cooling coil for my motor / motors:

                            **LINK**

                            **LINK**

                            Does anyone have some recommendations on size, pitch, and number of blades for bronze props for my working Tug ? Sources for hardware for my Tug would also be appreciated. I found HARBOR MODELS as one site:

                            **LINK**

                            Lastly, here is the Midwest, there used to be tractor pulls where two tractors would be connected to each other and they would pull in an attempt to drag their opponent in the direction they sere going:

                            **LINK**

                            Does anyone try to do this kind of pulling with RC Tug Boats ?

                            Thank you for taking the time to read and help / make suggestions to a lowly and uninformed beginner.

                            #63763
                            Malcolm Frary
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                              The link describes a Springer with an extra motor.

                              From the link –

                              Motor- Two- 550 Brushed
                              Battery- 2X 6V SLA or Gel Cell
                              ESC- Any RC Car FWD/REV
                              Prop- 40-44mm 3 blade

                              – a full description of the recommendations. Simple motors, simple ESCs. A "standard" springer has a single 540 brushed motor and pretty much any simple ESC. It is also designed around using a 1.5" or thereabouts prop, usually plastic which means that you get what is offered, and it works. Why go overthinking the problem? The more complex you make a simple rescue boat, the less likely the chance of a successful rescue.

                              #63772
                              Dave Milbourn
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                                Ron

                                This article will explain all about operating twin props **LINK**

                                I would not recommend using inrunner brushless motors as you describe. They tend to be much higher revving and lower torque than outrunners, which is why the latter type are used most often in RC model boats. SLA batteries are unsuitable for use with brushless motors as they are incapable of supplying the currents required over any useful length of time. You should consider NiMH or LiPo packs instead.

                                There is a specialist model tug forum here **LINK**

                                You will probably get more replies to your questions in terms of both quantity and depth there. Many of its members are based in the NW of the USA and will know the best suppliers over there.

                                Alternatively the Model Boat Mayhem forum has a separate board exclusively to do with Springers http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,95.0.html

                                You could spend a very useful day wading through its contents, which will probably answer most if not all of your questions.

                                Dave M

                                Edited By Dave Milbourn on 07/03/2016 09:34:20

                                Edited By Dave Milbourn on 07/03/2016 09:34:55

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