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20 January 2008 at 14:53 #12197
Bob Abell 2
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What model is this Tony?
…..and how long is it?
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20 January 2008 at 22:48 #12202
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi Bob,

The model is called ‘Jenny’ — 25" (635mm) long. Came as a free plan in Model Boats magazine November 1988. It was a double sided plan, the other side was ‘Streamlinette’ a simple launch. Both plans depicted the 1920’s era and were designed by Mr Douglas Mc Ghee. I have just received permission to upload the photographs from the original item into the gallery.

The boat has been a delight to build, costs involved have been minimal. The hull is balsa planking covered in one leg of a ladies nylon tight. The masts, booms etc., are now ready to be fitted. The sails have been made by Housemartin and finally the radio can be fitted. The boat has been bath tested only. She is a fair weather craft only, and to quote Mr Mc Ghee’s original item, "A straw boater hat and striped trousers will be needed".

Thanks for asking about the model.

Tony Hadley.
3 April 2008 at 01:45 #13197
Grunt
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@grunt
Hi Bob

greeting from Oz , I started building Jenny a few years back , not finished as yet , too many projects on the go .

I am at hull with keel stage , also did the stocking trick , makes a strong light hull ?, are you going with the external sail lever , I may not do it this way , not decided as yet.

I found some brown ripstop nylon shower curtin material for the sails , to go with the 1920 ‘s style .

Anyway look forward to seeing your finished boat on the water

Best

Grant Smith
3 April 2008 at 21:15 #13210
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Thanks Grant,

Due on the water shortly, considering our weather!! I will be posting the photographs.

Yes I am using the external lever arm, due to the limited space, I can’t think of an alternative. Will look forward to any alternative sugestions.

Happy modelmaking, Tony.
4 April 2008 at 06:46 #13214
Bob Abell 2
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For "Fun Sailing"……you don`t need a sail winch at all!

Just allow about 30 degrees movement …….and off you go!

Bob Abell
4 April 2008 at 10:24 #13215
Grunt
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@grunt
Hi Tony

If you are like me , you may have old copies of Model Boat mags , December 1990 came with a free plan for a 25 inch Radio model yacht called AKELA , , the sheeting is worked below deck , a plywood sail arm lever is hinged from one end to inside the hull , this arm is driven via a linkage from a standard servo .

The other end of the arm has the sheet attached thru a nylon tube to exit nearly at the bow ,aand then attached the the boom , the rig is a swing type , maybe an alternative to above deck arm

As you can see they are a bit dusty , been in storage for a while ,

http://www.sealevel.demon.nl/english/introductionXL25modelyacht.htm

Another great site is http://www.racingsparrow.com.nz

anyway enjoy

Grant
5 April 2008 at 19:40 #13234
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi again Grant,

Thanks for this, for this summer I plan to stick with what I’ve already done, however next winter I will certainly consider these modifications.

I do like the circular hatch on your model, this is more in keeping with model yachts of the 1920’s era. Again this could be a future modification.

What are your plans for completion? Have you made the sails yet?

The above deck lever arm on mine is made from round brass tube, not the square tube on the plan. Done this way to minimise hole size through the cabin. Radio now fitted, just needs rigging. Sorry I can’t send photo’s, I am currently having PC woes.

Happy model making, Tony.
6 April 2008 at 08:00 #13238
Grunt
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@grunt
Hi Tony,

The pictures posted are two boats , Jenny and Akela ,

I found some brown ripstop nylon shower curtin material for the sails , to go with the 1920 ‘s style of Jenny.

Akela is an ulta modern yacht with swing rig and will have Mylar sails ( draughting film )

there are no classes for these two boats here in Australia , so just pleasure sailing .

Hope you get your PC sorted as I am really looking forward to seeing Jenny finished and on the wate.

my email address is [email protected]

Best Again

Grant
6 April 2008 at 12:38 #13241
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi again Grant,

I will look out for December 1990 Model Boats AKELA. Looks interesting for the future. (I am a ‘kitchen table’, balsa type builder).

Thanks for supplying your email, it will be a pleasure to be in touch more. I will forward my email when PC and ISP woes are sorted. I am currently using a loaned laptop on dial up. Hope to get sorted soon.

The sails for ‘Jenny’ have been made by Housemartin and look superb, so I am really looking forward to getting this craft on the water. My other yacht is an IOM, which came in need of TLC. This has now been done and a winch fitted. I really struggled due to lack of space hence reality ‘kicks in’, and as stated above ‘kitchen table’ models in future.

I will look forward to seeing your yachts on the water.

Happy building Tony.
6 April 2008 at 16:43 #13243
Grunt
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@grunt
Hi Tony

The plans for Akela are at the site below , in Dutch but has English also , they call it XL25 , the main difference between the two , one has wood (Model Boat Version) mast and swing rig , the XL25 has carbon fibre, good size to build in kitchen at 25 inches

:http://www.sealevel.demon.nl/english/introductionXL25modelyacht.htm

You must visit this site below , guy from New Zealand ,has produced a great book on build from scratch a 750mm model racing yacht , I just bought the book from him in New zealand , it has to be one of the best books of it kind ever , ( no, not getting payed to say this.) , great price also , comes with full size plan , stickers and full colour manual.

http://www.racingsparrow.com.nz

Well waffled on again sorry , by for now ,

Best Grant
7 April 2008 at 14:11 #13247
Damien Gardner
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The Sparrow is a great looking model, my brother inlaw has built one the best man at my niece’s wedding apparently designed this yacht and gave him the book.

D.
9 January 2009 at 19:20 #1496
Bob Abell 2
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22 November 2010 at 04:48 #28950
Papa Joe
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@papajoe
Hello Tony,

I have been looking at the pictures of your ‘Jenny’ repeatedly over the last year and she is truly beautiful. Now I would like to build one. The problem is that I haven’t the Nov/1988 issue of Model Boat magazine. Have you any ideas on how I can get a copy of the plans?

Papa Joe
22 November 2010 at 13:26 #28957
Colin Bishop
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Papa Joe,

The plans for Jenny were published in the July 1989 issue of Model Boats along with the accompanying article. Larry (The Long Build) on here may be able to get hold of a copy for you if you send him a PM.

Colin
22 November 2010 at 14:15 #28960
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi Pap Joe,

If you have any difficulty obtaining a copy, from the source which Colin suggests, please send me a pm and I will send you my old copy.

Colin is quite right, the magazine item (which I have since obtained) was dated July 1989, although the date on the plan is Nov 1988.

Please note: the model is a very fussy sailer and only suitable in calm/fair weather.

Tony.
23 November 2010 at 19:34 #28979
Tony Burton
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@tonyburton83970
Hi Bob,

According to “magazine exchange” the plans for Jenny were in the July 89 Model Boats Mag

Tony
29 November 2012 at 22:07 #37915
Carl Walker
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@carlwalker
Hi, I am building this plan, after it was featured in the September 2012 issue of Model Boats. I have built the hull, and am starting on the keel. Just a quick question, what weight of lead is needed for the ballast in the keel? The article just says fill the keel with lead shot, but doesn't say how much. I don't have any lead shot, and not sure where to get it from, but a mate gave me some 6oz fishing weights, which I could "force" into shape to fit in the keel. Not sure how many i should use, though, any help would be appreciated. This is the first sailboat I have made, although I have made a several models before, mostly aircraft.

Thanks in advance

Ricky
1 December 2012 at 11:40 #37964
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Carl,

Fishermans weights (the modern type) are made from a lead substitute , which is not as heavy. A fisherman friend tell me he has to put 5 of the new weights on his line whereas the original lead would be ok with 3 weights. This substitute is made to prevent lead poisoning to swans etc.

Try to source original lead as weight is critical in this small yacht. I bought mine from a divers supply outlet, but there are other sources, perhaps other forum members can help.

The yacht is a fussy sailer suitable only for calm to fair winds. Nevertheless when on the water the model is extremely attractive and a source of enjoyment.

Tony.
6 December 2012 at 18:40 #38075
Rod smart
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@rodsmart62545
Hi, I wondered about that lead I thought would put the Keel in the boat shell and put lead in to get an idea.Unless someone gives me an other method.

Rod
10 December 2012 at 20:41 #38130
LARRY WHETTON
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@larrywhetton68737
Hello Tony,

Have got to the stocking covering stage with my JENNY….

Deck next is there deck plan shown any where ?……..Larry…..
11 December 2012 at 08:37 #38134
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi Larry,

You are really testing my grey matter, trying to remember from all those years ago. Here is a photograph I found in archives of the deck lining. From what I can remember, it was a trial and error design on a scrap piece of card first, then drawn in pencil on the deck and finally inked over before a coat of varnish. Photograph also shows my interpretation of the removable sail arm.

Hope this helps, Tony
14 December 2012 at 20:27 #38176
Rod smart
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@rodsmart62545
Hi Larry I have the Plan and hope to photo shot my build.This is my first go at boats an I am in the dark with some of the terms I found in the mag's, write up on the jenny.Are you photographing your build larry?

Tony I thought the deck had to be planked?It looks good though.

Edited By Rod smart on 14/12/2012 20:28:39
15 December 2012 at 19:26 #38189
LARRY WHETTON
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@larrywhetton68737
Hi Rod,

Photos will follow when the weather gets beter to get back in main work shop ,

and when i christmas out of the way, all famlily at the moment , cheers Larry….
15 December 2012 at 20:06 #38191
Tony Hadley
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@tonyhadley
Hi Rod,

Douglas McGhee's item indicates the model is a replica of a 1930's pond yacht which the 'better off' would be able to buy from the Clyde Model Dockyard or Bassett Lowke. Thus I interpreted that the model is a model of a model rather than a model of full sized craft and decided that the 1930's model would have had a printed deck, as against an individually planked deck. A deck of individual planks would further enhance the model but I would question as to whether the 1930's type of model would be indivdually planked. Perhaps someone could comment further.

Sorry I couldn't remember how much lead for the keel, I do remember taking the keel to a divers supplies shop who poured the in lead shot. It was the weighed and sold to me. I followed Mr Mc Ghee's advice and mixed it with paint.

Found a further photograph of the deck in archives.

Both yourself and Larry have inspired me with this model, to get it out of its wraps and give it a sail when the weather gets a bit warmer.

Any photographs of your progress yet?

Tony.
17 December 2012 at 16:02 #38217
Rod smart
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@rodsmart62545
Looks good Tony, The Jenny is on a thread called Jenny no1.as for photos I should try as you have given good support with this and There is a lack of build information for someone like me.As I said on the build forum The keel seems lower than the ribs 3mm.I thought it would be flush.

Any thoughts on this Tony?will try to put photo's on.
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