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  • #127015
    Ray Wood 3
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      @raywood3

      Hi All,

      Picked up my copy yesterday sad to see it’s been printed on low grade paper the photos and drawings are terrible !!

      For those of a certain age we know it reminds me of IZAL  🙁

      I have mentioned this to Lindsey she is also horrified !!

      This cost cutting will kill the magazine IMHO

      Regards Ray

      #127016
      Colin Bishop
      Moderator
        @colinbishop34627

        Yes, it’s dire isn’t it? In my copy the first two pages were still attached to each other down the long edge and I had to separate them.

        Colin

        #127017
        Chris Fellows
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          @chrisfellows72943

          Yes, I’ve mentioned this previously but this is the worst so far. I’ve seen better quality home produced newsletters.

          What’s the quality of their other magazines like? I bet not like this!

          Chris

          #127018
          Ray Wood 3
          Participant
            @raywood3

            Hi Chris,

            RCM&E is the same 🙁  I bought it because there is a picture of me launching my vintage diesel powered Poppet designed by Vic Smeed 🙂 last time I was in the magazine was 1999 !!!!

            Regards Ray

            #127019
            Colin Bishop
            Moderator
              @colinbishop34627

              Model Engineer is the same too. But Ships Monthly is noticeably better although I don’t think it is as good as it used to be.

              Colin

              #127021
              Chris Fellows
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                @chrisfellows72943

                That’s not good to hear about the other two mags. as well. Some folks will stop buying if the poor quality continues which will make things worse as regards viability. I will consider going digital only next time. Perhaps this is their plan? If so, given the demographic of the readers, they will lose even more customers.

                Chris

                #127022
                Colin Bishop
                Moderator
                  @colinbishop34627

                  As I might have mentioned previously, MyTimeMedia tried to do the same but Paul Freshney kicked up a fuss and the original quality was restored. Of course the magazine had a bigger budget then.

                  It is all a bit odd as Kelsey added 8 more pages. Maybe the money might have been better spent in maintaining the quality of the original page count.

                  Colin

                  #127024
                  Richard Simpson
                  Moderator
                    @richardsimpson88330

                    Thinking just the same as I flicked through my copy this afternoon.  To be honest some of the pages look no better than newsprint.  If I compare it with any of the other magazines I get such as Hornby Magazine, Airfix Model World and even, yes even, Vintage & Classic Motorcycle, which is a free magazine that you get with an annual subscription to The Vintage & Classic Motorcycle Club, they are all in a different league.  And Model Boats Magazine costs 10p more than Airfix Model World, which is 148 pages this month.

                    If this is the best they can come up with I can only see it as being the final nail in the coffin of the magazine.  There will always be a few die hards who support it for its history and heritage but we are never going to attract new readers to it with that quality.

                    Interestingly Colin my first two pages were also half attached and I had to cut them apart.

                    #127025
                    Stephen Garrad
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                      @stephengarrad28964
                      On Richard Simpson Said:

                       

                      Interestingly Colin my first two pages were also half attached and I had to cut them apart.

                      Mine too.

                      #127027
                      Tim Cooper
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                        @timcooper90034

                        The first 9 or 10 pages on my copy had to be separated.

                        Also I wonder if the paper is thinner  as on some pages I can see the print on the other side showing through.  This can make the white background seem grey on some pages.

                        Tim

                        #127030
                        Colin Bishop
                        Moderator
                          @colinbishop34627

                          I have been in touch with Lindsey who is also unhappy about the problems. She has raised them with the publishers.

                          Colin

                          #127035
                          ashley needham
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                            @ashleyneedham69188

                            I mentioned this on Today’s Boating month ago…seems like a trend and not a one off.

                            Adding extra pages but cutting the  quality of paper/printing seems a poor trade off.

                            Anyone browsing on the stand would be instantly put off by this. Looking like a mag from the 70’s..

                            Ashley

                            #127039
                            Ray Wood 3
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                              @raywood3

                              Hi Ash,

                              I didn’t buy last month’s issue so I didn’t spot the change then ! was there a Free Add for my Norfolk Wherry For Sale in it ? I havn’t heard a bean so maybe not 🙁

                              Regards  Ray

                              #127046
                              Stephen Garrad
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                                @stephengarrad28964

                                Yes Ray, the ad was in the December issue, in the Classifieds.

                                Stephen

                                Merry Christmas everyone.

                                #127048
                                Richard Simpson
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                                  @richardsimpson88330

                                  Ray,  Just had a look through December and didn’t see any ads at all.

                                  #127050
                                  Ray Wood 3
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                                    @raywood3

                                    Thanks Stephen,

                                    Probably the wrong time to advertise it 🙁

                                    I will try again in the spring 🙂

                                    Regards  Ray     Happy ChristmasAltair InternalsAltair BowAltair Side View

                                    #127051
                                    Richard Simpson
                                    Moderator
                                      @richardsimpson88330

                                      Ah, now I see, they are amongst the other ads for Fleetscale and ModelFixings etc.  I was looking for the old style readers classified box.  Sorry Ray, yes its there!

                                      #127053
                                      Colin Bishop
                                      Moderator
                                        @colinbishop34627

                                        I sense that the market may have declined considerably in recent years. Many older modellers are seeking to ‘de clutter’ but the demand is weak. It took quite a long time to dispose of Paul Freshney’s models, advertised in May 2023, and they didn’t all sell despite promiment photographs and a supporting article in the magazine.

                                        I sold two out of three models on Mayhem, but again it took a while and I didn’t get the asking price although they went to good homes.

                                        Our executors are going to have a few problems I fear!

                                        Colin

                                        #127055
                                        ashley needham
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                                          @ashleyneedham69188

                                          All.mine will go.in the bin

                                          I am under no.illusion that they will be worth anything, or that anyone would pay money for them!

                                          Berengar might keep a couple and that will be that.

                                          Ashley ( bah humbug)

                                          #127056
                                          Ray Wood 3
                                          Participant
                                            @raywood3

                                            Hi All,

                                            Yes I recognised the need to downsize the fleet, but selling my prototype models is rather like selling your children 🙂

                                            As to value they are only worth what someone’s willing to pay, tugs sell like hot cakes at my Chantry club !! for good money £££

                                            Regards  Ray

                                            #127057
                                            Richard Simpson
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                                              @richardsimpson88330

                                              I fear Ray that your club may well be the exception rather than the rule.  Up my end of the country clubs are generally closing down due mainly to lack of support and interest.  My own club, once a thriving, successful club with a healthy membership, a fat bank account, a crammed events calendar with three open days a year and attendance at many away shows and events, is now seriously struggling.  They don’t even seem to have the enthusiasm for getting a calendar together for 2026 so, without that, many events are simply going to fall beside the wayside.  As for second hand models, the market has gone.  Every time we loose a member we go through the same pain of trying to find owners for, in some cases superb models, but no-one is in the slightest bit interested.

                                              As for steam, I have been the only remaining model boat steam tester in northern based model boat clubs for a few years now but that looks like it might end this year as well.  Mainly due to apathy in my club, a slow decline in interest in steam powered models combined with the expense of building, owning and operating one.  A 100g disposable gas can nowadays is usually around six pounds plus and might last you two mornings of sailing.  The hassle of testing is putting people off so second hand steam models without any certification are a real struggle to pass on.

                                               

                                              #127058
                                              Colin Bishop
                                              Moderator
                                                @colinbishop34627

                                                Most clubs depend on two or three members to drive things along and do much of the organisation, the others then fall into line and supply the necessary manpower. If the key people drop out, often from advancing age these days, then the whole thing fragments.

                                                A lot of the decline in the hobby is due to age related problems. Ill health, low energy levels and commitments to frail family members all conspire to cut into external activities.There are few younger replacements willing and able to step into the shoes of their elders.

                                                A few years ago, attending the Mayhem event or the International Model Boat Show at the Warwick Exhibition Centre was a given. Up and back in a day from Surrey, no problem. With the loss of an eye during Covid it is a different story. I can no longer drive at night or in low light and during the day distances are restricted as one eye has to do the work of two and I need to avoid eyestrain. Other people have other problems, most of us in our 70s suffer from one or more issues which impact on our activities. Basically horizons gradually close in at best and  more drastically at worse.

                                                I still build models in my workshop but running them is more problematical as Bushy Park is an hour’s drive away and I am reliant on Ashley to launch and recover my models as my knees no longer function the way they were intended to. I can get the model into the water but am likely to join it in attempting to get it out again!

                                                No fun getting old.

                                                Colin

                                                 

                                                #127059
                                                Richard Simpson
                                                Moderator
                                                  @richardsimpson88330
                                                  On Colin Bishop Said:

                                                  Most clubs depend on two or three members to drive things along and do much of the organisation, the others then fall into line and supply the necessary manpower. If the key people drop out, often from advancing age these days, then the whole thing fragments.

                                                   

                                                  Precisely what has happened at my club.  Very sad but we have known it was coming.

                                                  #127060
                                                  Tim Cooper
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                                                    @timcooper90034

                                                    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Colin</p>
                                                    I built some larger models in my late 50’s and 60’s which look great on the water but getting them to the pond, getting them in and out again. That’s the problem.

                                                    I would be joining them in the pond.

                                                    I tried to sell some in the magazine this year but only one response but no real interest.

                                                    Still building models as it’s what I have done since I was 11. Keeps the brain active!

                                                    Tim

                                                    #127061
                                                    Ray Wood 3
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                                                      @raywood3

                                                      Hi All,

                                                      Density of population makes a huge difference I think with the Chantry club being on the edge of South London we are lucky to have 30 – 40 members at each session Weds , Sat & Sundays of maybe 150 members, fortnightly yacht racing, strong Tug section because many of them worked on the Thames , my other club in Maidstone with a super lake has approx 120 members strong ic section sat mornings apparently 20 active , yachting section maybe 10 active , they are quite behind the times with communication only just set up a Facebook page, at the AGM last week 19 people bothered to go, nobody bothers to go on the commitee, but they keep finding excuses not to have a Whatsapp group because of data protection rules !! total tosh I think, Chantry and Maidstone model aeroplane club are brilliant with their Whatsapp group chats and reminders what’s going on.

                                                      Travelling/driving and the age of the membership saw off AMBO after covid 🙁

                                                      Regards  Ray

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