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9 September 2012 at 20:05 #9415
nevins
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Do they exist?
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9 September 2012 at 20:05 #36414
nevins
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Well in a moment of madness I bought a 1/16 scale tiger tank. Now I was just wondering if anyone knew if there was ever a german LC ever built. Reason being is that I really fancy storming a slip way and advancing with a tiger, to take on the ducks.
9 September 2012 at 20:29 #36415
Paul T
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Hi

Try looking up Marinefahrprahm (MFP) which was the largest German landing craft.

Paul
9 September 2012 at 21:29 #36416
nevins
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Thanks for the reply Paul. Will start the search now. Had a quick browse earlier but kept finding things called f boats, but did not look right.
10 September 2012 at 06:55 #36421
Paul T
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The German forces had a few variants of landing craft but the largest heavy load carrier was the MFP, designated as a Naval Ferry Barge they were heavily armoured and could easily carry the Panther or Tiger tanks.

Edited By Paul. on 10/09/2012 07:01:01
10 September 2012 at 08:07 #36431
ashley needham
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Paul. Like that… might have a go at making a carpet one to compliment the British (later) LCM we have. I have some 1/32 Airfix poly tanks to use…

Ashley (currently making a wooden land wasser snapper to compliment DUCK and Buffalo previously made)
10 September 2012 at 09:54 #36436
Bob Abell 2
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When I was a lad, Calais was full of German landing craft

Mind you, I was only four at the time!

Bob
10 September 2012 at 10:07 #36437
Colin Bishop
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You weren't in the Home Guard then Bob…..

Colin
10 September 2012 at 10:22 #36438
Bob Abell 2
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Ha! Ha!?….I remember the Home Guard in those far off days

They used to creep round the bushes in the park with blackened faces and frighten us all to death!

The park also had railway sleepers sunk in to deter aircraft landing

Bob
10 September 2012 at 14:54 #36439
Paul T
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I didn't think that the Kaisers troops got as far as Calais.
10 September 2012 at 17:29 #36445
nevins
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Thanks for that Paul, Is my life going to made easy by a plan already being available for them or am I back to scratch building? My foche can go on hold for the moment. As I am in the mood to invade some ponds.
10 September 2012 at 18:00 #36446
Paul T
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10 September 2012 at 18:03 #36447
nevins
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Thanks, I think i have found someone who had plans but, its on a german forum and from 3 years ago, there ias a pic of the plan but I can not make out whos plan it is, here is a link to the image

**LINK**

Hope that worked.
12 September 2012 at 20:40 #36481
nevins
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Right then, i have been roughly working out meassurements for this vessel. from using figures of wikipedia the thing is 50m in length and has a 7 foot beam, now with my calculator to 1/16th scale that makes it 312.5 cm long and only 43.75 cm wide. Now this seems to be rather out of proporsion in my mind, a canal boot comes to mind to be honest. Does this sound about right to anyone
13 September 2012 at 06:46 #36488
Paul T
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Hello Nevins

The true specifications of the Marinefährprahm from the Kriegsmarine archive:

Length: 48m Beam: 6.5m Draught: 4.7m Draft: 1.5m (loaded) Displacement: 239t Capacity: 140t

Your dims are not far off (except the 7ft beam) and the proportions do resemble a canal boat or more precisely a Rhine barge.

I hope that this helps and I am looking forward to seeing this built at 1:16

Paul
13 September 2012 at 20:27 #36501
nevins
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Thanks for the info paul, I have been collecting images over the past 2 days to put a portfolio togeter for referance when in the work shop. I can honestly say i can not wait to begin this model.
24 September 2012 at 21:17 #36662
ashley needham
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-35-German-WW2-landing-craft-ferry-barge-type-D-plans-/360489136716

Ashley
25 September 2012 at 07:02 #36665
Paul T
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Nice find Ashley I've been looking for a decent set of drawings for a Hawker Typhoon for a while.

Paul
25 September 2012 at 08:02 #36667
ashley needham
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Paul, Funny, innit, you can spend ages searching and not find, and then in a weeks time…bop!! there it is in plain sight.

I have made the hull of mine (48×7) and have discovered now that the front of the barge has…not sure how to describe it… it looks like a catamaran, and the loading ramp fits in the gap. A barge with horns on the front. Mine of course is normal barge shape. so i will stick two strips on the front either side to simulate this.

There seems to be considerable variation in the build of these things, no two pictures are the same. Even on that link the picture, nmodel and plan do not agree! What I took to be windows in the top cover (sides) may be doors, I will hedge my bets and make extra long windows, to stick on the outside. I will also make an 88 to put on the back, as I like the look of them and recon I can make a reasonable copy of the ones we have. The inside will be plain as the tanks only JUST fit in the well, I made it a tight fit to keep the width down and get a flavour of the slimness of the things. Pics to follow.

It also looks like there were three props at the back which looks fantastic, however financial considerations means I am only fitting one 540 (of which I have a large pile)

Ashley
8 October 2012 at 19:37 #36927
ashley needham
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Oo er..My barge is only 4 feet long, and carries 3x 1/32 scale tanks…a 1/16 scale one therefore I have realised would be 8 feet long (and still too small) and have just twigged the previous measurements of over 3m in length..that would be a monster and no mistake.

it would also require some seriouys stiffening to stop the hull from twisting.

Ashley
9 October 2012 at 07:24 #36932
Paul T
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Ashley

Welcome to the world of big models.

Paul
9 October 2012 at 14:04 #36937
ashley needham
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And even larger cars to carry them!

Ashley
16 October 2012 at 07:49 #37053
ashley needham
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Nev. Scratch build. Virtually all the photos I have seen show a large variation of design and fittings. The world is your oyster. You could always make the craft in two bits, as bolting them together woud be easy on such a regular shaped hull.

Ashley
16 October 2012 at 10:44 #37057
ashley needham
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oo er.. I appear to have replied to a post that was definately on there this morning.. but has gorn now???

Ashley
16 October 2012 at 12:41 #37058
Paul T
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Ashley

Welcome to the world of senior moments.

Its nothing to worry about until you find yourself wearing pyjamas in the middle of Tesco and wondering how you got there (especially when you shop as Asda)

Paul
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