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[Ron SindricParticipant @ronsindric97262]

For someone who is "into" POWER-BOATING, your SAILING SHIP looks VERY GOOD. When She is done, will She be free-sailing or RC ? Is this a kit or tabula rasa ? QUESTION —> will She have a first-person-view set up or even the ability to record video and stills while sailing ?

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi who said I'm "into" power boating ?? And my sailing yacht is not a kit my friend its a one off all hand made I'm not going to add all that waistfull stuff RC jib and a mail 3 channel only thanks for comments ….mark

Edited By mark69 on 15/02/2016 23:20:21

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Marti ta mate once I've sanded down to the thickness of the veneer I can stain and varnish before I start planking !! you win ! any movement with your yacht ??? …….mark

[Ron SindricParticipant @ronsindric97262]

Sorry,

Please don't take offense at my comments. Your Ship is Beautiful. Not being used to any kind of forum, I mistook the post just above yours as belonging to you. In the 1950's I had a kid's control-line aeroplane. In the late 1960's I started with fixed wing aircraft. Now, I am expanding to many different kinds of RC. My interest in things digital is prompted by the remote sensing, computerized data collection and analysis I did as a pre-engineering Chemistry Teacher. Photography now, I still use KODAK 10" x 8" and "modern" OMEGAVIEW 5" x 4" cameras, a spotmeter, and the ADAMS ZONE SYSTEM.

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Mark, may I suggest….if you're doing any staining, do it over some finish. My Grandad was a cabinet maker and he always said, "stain the finish, boy, not the wood, stain'll kill the bare wood". And that's what , for instance, Riva used to do and Freebody's still do when restoring the speedboats.

I can see where the nice long joggles will be on the deck planking thanks to your nice mark-up.

Looking forward to seeing it being done.

My Marblehead, no, too cold. Although it has been inspected by my Northern grandchildren yesterday!<G>

Cheers,

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Ron I didn't take offence but I will if you keep calling it a "ship" I'm sure there is going to be someone who will comment on that ! I did think about putting a camera on the stern though….mark

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin doing the stain over the finish???? how wood that work ,if I were to varnish and then apply the stain ,if it soaked in the varnish hasn't done its job of sealing the wood ,that isn't how we do things at work !! besides stain brings out the grain not varnish ,maybe your granddad "French polished "…….. mark

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Mark, yes, of course my Grandad French Polished, he was cabinet making! But If it's good enough for a cabinet maker and it's good enough for Riva and Freebody's, it's certainly good enough for anyone else!

E-mail me and I'll send you a picture of one of my Riva models which are made/veneered in steamed pear, which looks like mahogany in scale if you stain the finish. I would use cellulose sanding sealer….a few coats, then rub down, then stain with hand mixed spirit based stains, rubbed on with a fid, then spar varnish with a broad sable brush, till a glass like finish results. The spar varnish puts a hint of that golden tint to the pear that is part of new mahogany. These methods I always used when making miniature furniture for dolls' house collectors.

Of course, a teak deck has very little colour anyway, so you probably need no stain at all!

Cheers,

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin very nice ,I'm using Epifanes classic mahogany stain which has been used on Dutch yachts for years so true to what we use at work this is how I'm doing mine ! I'm not staining the teak ..mark

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Epiphanes is traditionally what Riva used on their boats and what Freebody's use in their restorations of Rivas and they use it OVER the epoxy. I've been there when they were doing it.

How are you effecting the scrubbed look on the teak?

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin maybe they but im not ! our teak decks are sanded smooth , we used to use teak oil years ago but that has an adverse affect on the life of teak so now we don't oil and let the teak naturally silver ,my teak vaneer has a realy nice straight grain pattern so should look good I'm sticking to what I'm doing

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Teak on a model won't look like teak..in scale, though. But something's better than nothing.

That's why I use steamed pear to look like mahogany. I never use mahogany on a model. Far too open a grain.

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin don't think it looks to bad do you ?? Once ive cut the teak into planks it going to look so good …mark

Edited By mark69 on 17/02/2016 22:34:25

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Colourwise, no, but I thought you were planking it?

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin I'm cutting that into planking strips obviously not full length and with a gap the width of my pins …mark

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Ah, OK. I was impressed by your neat mark up. I'm so pleased it ain't going to waste!

I did a Finrose 47 and a wishbone rigged centre board Luna 50 a few years back and they had planked decks. I inherited the jobs at the point where somebody had very thoroughly glued some ebony veneer to some much lighter wood of a thickness equalling the plank width, leaving me to rip the planks of the smaller planks I had and lay as deck planks. Ergo…the caulking was built into each plank, one side. Saved me an enormous amount of time and made decking an absolute pleasure. They were scraped and lightly waxed as I recall.

 

Martin

Edited By Martin Field 1 on 17/02/2016 23:25:57

[mike farrellParticipant @mikefarrell21522]

Hi All I am currently building a Sand Yacht from scraps in the spares box and do not know to set up a system for controlling the Yacht .All my experience with controls have been with the inclusion of a speed controller .Advise please

Two servos will be used 1.for steering and one for sail control

Thanks Michael

[Ron SindricParticipant @ronsindric97262]

Does anyone have any experience with Will Lesh's T37 Sailboat kits

( http://www.tippecanoeboats.com )

I just ordered one as my first-ever wood Sailboat. I intend to use the table / furniture from an old sewing machine as my T37's indoor base stand. Will post pix when it is all done.

Thank You

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi all I've got round to start decking my boat now I've cut all the planks to 5mm and had a dry run but now I've noticed they will have put back in my sanding jig and sand down to 4mm so I'm able to have the correct amount both sides (18)

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi all I've been doing some more planking this weekend still not finished ! I've yet to cut the king plank noggins I'm laying onto 1.5 mm ply to make the pattern then I can cut for both sides

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Oh, I'd have cut the king plank with joggles, then cut the planking to fit. You're doing it tother way round.

Good luck with that. It does look good so-far.

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hi Martin got any upto date pics of your boat yet ? anyway this is what I'm aiming for on mine …….mark

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Very nice, a real yacht deck.

My friend, who gave me the Marblehead didn't do such a thorough job, but in his memory I will be keeping the deck he made as it is. He still did a nice job.

My work will be to get the hull smooth and the rig installed, now I have a suit of sails. And of course, to install suitable radio gear.

But no updated pictures as it is still in need of an epoxying.

Martin

[mark69Participant @mark69]

Hopefully it will start to warm up soon and you can start with your epoxy ,personally in my Opinion I wouldnt use epoxy but instead a poly resen that way any paint will stick without the need for a tycoat primer !! and poly resin can be used outside in any temperature !.mark

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Poly resin?? Tyecoat primer??

No idea what you mean, Mark.

I've never hd trouble with enamel paint sticking to epoxy. Tell us more.

I'm not that well up on latest materials.

Martin

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