TYNE Class Lifeboat build

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The sails on your next Lifeboat, look awfully small Neil?

Although she seem to be making good headway?

Was she motorised too?

Bob

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Bob, I suspect the sails were simply a leftover from earlier designs by naval architects who could not bring themselves to finally trust diesel engines!  Have a read here:

Barnett Class

Neil, that will make a stunning model.

 

Edited By Richard Simpson on 19/08/2021 09:09:29

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by gecon on 19/08/2021 07:25:56:

I'm facinated by your in-house production of detail parts Neil. Beautiful work, and a joy to behold.

George

thank yo george, i admire your work on your Colin Archer very much myself……..lovely workmanship.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Bob Abell on 19/08/2021 07:38:58:

The sails on your next Lifeboat, look awfully small Neil?

Although she seem to be making good headway?

Was she motorised too?

Bob

they were basically for emergency propulsion.

she had twin 80bhp 6 cylinder engines as her main motive power.

they sometimes used the sails as a steady if they had to vere down on a wreck, but normally dropped sail in order to use the rescue net suspended from 4 upright steel stands, so that casualties could jump from a wreck into the net as the lifeboat was alongside the wreck.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Richard Simpson on 19/08/2021 09:07:35:

Bob, I suspect the sails were simply a leftover from earlier designs by naval architects who could not bring themselves to finally trust diesel engines! Have a read here:

Barnett Class

Neil, that will make a stunning model.

Edited By Richard Simpson on 19/08/2021 09:09:29

i hope so Richard, and at 61" long i hope an impressive one too.

i will put on here a full build from frames to grp mouldings to finish hopefully.

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Neil

As always I am in awe of your building skills, your boats are stunning and I hope that, during the event the public appreciate how much work goes into building models of this quality and put notes into that bucket.

Paul

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

thanks for the lovely accolade Paul…..

we as a group of 4 nutters have looked forward to this for nearly 3 years up to now, since Steve Bennett asked if anyone would be interested in doing it with him………

myself, Mike Pendlebury and Martin Kinghoward needed no pursuading in joining him…..

the boat i was going to use myself in 2020 and this year, [the motor sailer] sold to a collector and so i am preparing the tyne to do the trip,

Steve Bennett is going to use his 71" Clyde class lifeboat, and the other two……well god knows as being prolific builders, any guess as to what will surface on the day will be lifeboat based lol………

just looking forward to it immnsely…..four men with toy boats against the best that a British lakeland summer can throw at us, lol.

there will be a do put on by the new owners of the lakeland steam museum for the evening, and our lunchtime stop will also be there hopefully with Windermere model boat club organising a day time show.

We have two support boats as well as one of the guys bringing his restored Dclass rib, as a rescue boat should anything go wrong with one of the boats……….and i believe local RNLI cuild ladies wiill be on hand with a stall selling RNLI wares as wll as offering safey advce………..so we hopefully will be well organised.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

There wasn't a great deal of work and time needed to produce the fillers and fire /hose connecters that go into the recesses in the sides of the cabin but at times, you wonder why you go to such lengths when you eventually cover them up with the grills that lock them away, haha.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

up the creke without a paddle, but two glorious engines that do the job far better.

i went down to find the boat which was for over two years on hard standing at Glasson Dock, near Lancaster.

i needed a last few detail shots of the top side of the boat, and so took the trip down to Lytham Creke this morning, and got them after finding the boat tied up behind an industrial estate.

now its just onwards and upwards towards finishing her as a model.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

all parts shown are either made from brass wire and plasticard, or wire and brass sheet which either needed to be silver soldered together or "bolted" to other parts that are attached to silver soldered parts.

all will become clearer after i have got my soldering torch out tomorrow morning.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

So!, yesterday I showed little bits and pieces made from parts of brass and plasticard tubing.

Well, the brass wire and plasticard tubing……dummy brass nuts/bolts.

The odd shaped brass sheet made into an obscure shape on the cabin top…….the resting brackets for the folding side screens. These have to be finished by drilling and fittng a small rod imitaing a screw tensioner.

The bent bits of wire….front wind screen washer pipes!

"L" shaped brackets, …..anchoring points for the legs of the main whip areals [made from carbon fibre broken fishing rod sips]

The copper tubing with flattened ends the main whip areal stays with the small brass rectangles and tubes as guides for the whip areals.

In all there were [not including the carbon fibre areals or the two bases I still have to make for the areals] 19 individual parts to make up EACH areal support!……who says we don't spend time on our boats, lol

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Bases on, and spring tensioners fitter with springs inserted…..those are the screen rests done.

a little bit more to paint

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

The main whip areals tp fit into the support frames I made and put together where then fabricated from carbon fibre fishing rod ends plus brass tubing, and two bases that I modified from a couple of fittings I had handy.

I glued each areal into the tube bracket to set its height in pisition, and once set will paint them the black bases and white top halves.

and that's it for tonight…….a slurp of ozzie red beckons

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Those little bits of detail are so important to bring the model to life. Superb job on every one Neil.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

cheers Richard

its always good to have a real boat on hand to photograph…….and as you say..the finish is in the detailing…..and the parts that i like doing and spending time on the best.

back into the workshop now though as one of the windscreen washer pipes needed a small adjustment last night and as i reshappened it, the piece snapped in two so need to fire up the torch and put a new down pipe onto it……two minute job, with a ten minute set up lol

but hopefully that is the last of the soldering.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

sometimes its 2 steps forward, and 1 back, but in my case, 1 step forward and 2 back when fabricating fittings.

last night was just such a case…….i had soldered up the windscreen washer pipes and was doing some minor adjustments to the height of them with some pliers when the end of one [the last one to be adjusted] broke off……couldn't be bothered to go out again into the workshop as it was 11.30pm by that time!.

And so this lunchtime, i went out, swetted off the broken down piece and soldered on a new piece of brass wire.

Now both adjusted and fitted with plastic tube brackets, they are ready for painting.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

NEVER EVER throw materials away guys.

even the surrounding brass etched parts from brass fittings comes in one day…you just have to store it until you need it.

I had to make the suport bracket for the front loud hailer, which attaches to the front of the cabin.

the bracket was drilled abd formed to a U shape, plastic base cut from 1mm plasticard, and all held together using 1mm framing pins.

another painting job, but looking the part.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

and on the point of everyday household things, its great what you can do with the cut off end to a sharpy pen…..

so here are two cabin top lamps i made from such a pen that i moulded in rubber.

the rest is made from plasticard.

the plasticard on the lamps need cleaning up and sanded smooth once the plastiweld has set……probably in an hour or so.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

And last, but by no means least, for tonight I readied the spring lock fairleads, the two stern open fairleads plus the stern Gobeye fairlead for painting brass colour.

some of the possible "rivet counters" might say i gave got it wrong by fitting 8 spring lock fairleads to the RNLB William Street, but she was actually unique within the fleet of Tyne lifeboats, and this was down to Fleetwood's coxs'n who oversaw the building of her at FBM Marine, Cowes at every stage of her build.

most Tynes only had 6 spring lock fairleads spaced around her deck for mooring as most were either slip launched or tied up in a safe harbour. However the Fleetwood boat was tied up in a pen, built on the river Wyre and subjected to one of the fastest flowing rivers in the country, at 7 knotts on a flood or ebb tide, and Ian wanted two extra fairleads plus the stern gobeye to make a nine point mooring set up to make sure she was fast and tight on her rise and fall mooring platform…….

And that is why she has 8 fairleads rather than all the rest which had only 6……the extra on the photos is a spair for if i drop and cant find one, lol.

experience tells me to ready extra.

[Roger FugeParticipant @rogerfuge]

Hi love your work could you tell me if you use flat or semi gloss lacquer on the Polar gray fittings thahks

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Posted by neil howard-pritchard on 22/08/2021 23:12:08:

some of the possible "rivet counters" might say i gave got it wrong by fitting 8 spring lock fairleads to the RNLB William Street, but she was actually unique within the fleet of Tyne lifeboats, and this was down to Fleetwood's coxs'n who oversaw the building of her at FBM Marine, Cowes at every stage of her build.

most Tynes only had 6 spring lock fairleads spaced around her deck for mooring as most were either slip launched or tied up in a safe harbour. However the Fleetwood boat was tied up in a pen, built on the river Wyre and subjected to one of the fastest flowing rivers in the country, at 7 knotts on a flood or ebb tide, and Ian wanted two extra fairleads plus the stern gobeye to make a nine point mooring set up to make sure she was fast and tight on her rise and fall mooring platform…….

And that is why she has 8 fairleads rather than all the rest which had only 6……the extra on the photos is a spair for if i drop and cant find one, lol.

 

 

 

You would be one of the very few people in the world who would have known that!

Edited By Richard Simpson on 23/08/2021 09:24:36

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Richard Simpson on 23/08/2021 09:24:19:

Posted by neil howard-pritchard on 22/08/2021 23:12:08:

some of the possible "rivet counters" might say i gave got it wrong by fitting 8 spring lock fairleads to the RNLB William Street, but she was actually unique within the fleet of Tyne lifeboats, and this was down to Fleetwood's coxs'n who oversaw the building of her at FBM Marine, Cowes at every stage of her build.

most Tynes only had 6 spring lock fairleads spaced around her deck for mooring as most were either slip launched or tied up in a safe harbour. However the Fleetwood boat was tied up in a pen, built on the river Wyre and subjected to one of the fastest flowing rivers in the country, at 7 knotts on a flood or ebb tide, and Ian wanted two extra fairleads plus the stern gobeye to make a nine point mooring set up to make sure she was fast and tight on her rise and fall mooring platform…….

And that is why she has 8 fairleads rather than all the rest which had only 6……the extra on the photos is a spair for if i drop and cant find one, lol.

You would be one of the very few people in the world who would have known that!

Edited By Richard Simpson on 23/08/2021 09:24:36

came from my old freind and mentors' mouth, the old long serving Coxswain of the lifeboat, Richard……..along with many more of his experiences [ many unrepeatable on here, lol]aboard the lifeboat

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Roger Fuge on 23/08/2021 09:06:35:

Hi love your work could you tell me if you use flat or semi gloss lacquer on the Polar gray fittings thahks

hi Roger, it is a Halfords spray can, and is classed as gloss BUT, used with matt filler primer it actually dries as a satin coat.

[Roger FugeParticipant @rogerfuge]

Thanks. Neil for help

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Roger Fuge on 23/08/2021 19:36:22:

Thanks. Neil for help

no problems……..we all need help sometimes………mine is usually with electronics, electrics and all things red and black wires lol.

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