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  • #104516
    neil hp
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      Posted by Colin Bishop on 06/04/2023 17:45:55:

      Beautiful hull shapes Neil, well done! That primer filler does smell horrible doesn't it?

      Colin

      Thanks Colin, yes……………not the best , and even a 20 grade mask doesn't help matters either.

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      #104517
      neil hp
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        The Laural Green anti fouling has gone on to the first boat with a nice rich lusture, bit too shiny under the lamps but looks ok to me.

        Will leave that now until I hopefully come back from the hospital on Tuesday, when I can mask off for the regatta blue above the water line and then starting the 2nd boat late Wednesday.

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        #104519
        ashley needham
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          @ashleyneedham69188

          Thats a different colour for anti fouling, very nice Neil.

          Ashley

          #104520
          Richard Simpson
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            @richardsimpson88330

            Lovely job Neil. I've always been a fan of the good old fashioned rattle can for convenience and, you you've proved there, you can get as good a finish as a professional job with a bit of care and attention.

            #104523
            neil hp
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              @neilhp
              Posted by ashley needham on 10/04/2023 08:55:41:

              Thats a different colour for anti fouling, very nice Neil.

              Ashley

              I get asked this regularly Ashley

              Long before red lead for anti fouling and protection of both wooden and metal hulls, there was the grean leaded paints, and i suspect you live near or on the coast yourself……..remember back to your grand dads day, and think of the majority of houses at sea side towns. they were in the majority of having their wooden doors, windows, out houses etc always painted in mid to dark green.

              It was because a lead based constituant was added to the paint work to keep the salt sea air from rotting the woodwork!

              As with the houses, so were the boat hulls painted with green lead for anti fouling and protection against damage from sea water, up until the very early 1930's.

              Another fact that my grand father the master cabinate and pattern maker told me as a young boy.

              Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 10/04/2023 16:10:47

              #104524
              neil hp
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                @neilhp
                Posted by Richard Simpson on 10/04/2023 12:11:45:

                Lovely job Neil. I've always been a fan of the good old fashioned rattle can for convenience and, you you've proved there, you can get as good a finish as a professional job with a bit of care and attention.

                thanks Richard. its not bad, but not perfect on this boat, as i havent done any spraying for ages………..hopefully the second boat for my friend and the blue upper hull on this will be better, as i spend more time on it.

                #104526
                Richard Simpson
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                  @richardsimpson88330

                  Actually Neil I think the reason a lot of houses were the same colour as boat anti fouling was because most of the paint on the houses was nicked from the boatyards!

                  #104527
                  neil hp
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                    @neilhp

                    you are probably rgh there Richard………especially in Fleetwood!

                    #104528
                    neil hp
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                      @neilhp

                      I have now masked the bottom half of the boat up including the rudder, with a roll of parcel brown paper and masking tape.

                      And then I sprayed the upper part of the hull with the Vauxhall Regatta Blue,that I had mixed at a UPOL station, a lighter blue than the more modern Oxford/Baliol Blue that is used on lifeboats today!

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                      #104529
                      neil hp
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                        @neilhp

                        One down, one to go!

                        The two major colours have now been applied to the Princess Mary, and hopefully I'll feel cheary and positive enough to start doing the same to the William and Kate Johnston.

                        I will then leave them until the weekend for the paints to cure and harden before I apply the red to the belting, and the white boot topping.

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                        #104530
                        ashley needham
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                          So satisfying, spraying large areas with paint and turning the boat (or whatever in my case) well, blue and green in this instance."

                          I find it an umm and arr moment, it’s make or break…will it go on ok?. Will there be yet MORE filling as the gloss shows all the imperfections??

                          Spray cans are the ultimate in convenience, but spraying from a gun does get I find a better coverage and thickness of paint. It’s just the massive faff with mixing and all that cleaning afterwards.

                          Ashley

                          #104545
                          neil hp
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                            @neilhp

                            Second boat has been masked up and the Regatta blue applied to the upper part of the hull.

                            First layer on, and I'll apply the second layer in an hour or so.

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                            #104546
                            neil hp
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                              @neilhp

                              both done, and hopefully later tomorrow I'll be able to mask up and follow RNLI practice of painting the upper belting bright red.

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                              #104553
                              neil hp
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                                @neilhp

                                And now, the top belting has been masked up for my final piece of painting on the hull, the masking up of the upper main belting ready for painting with Humbrol no.19 gloss red enamel……

                                time to dig out my artists mohair soft brushes.

                                Hopefully I can start those tomorrow evening!

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                                #104557
                                neil hp
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                                  @neilhp

                                  I went out to our "local" artist shop in St Annes this afternoon for some new brushes.

                                  Thought the two models deserved some, and bought 4 tins of gloss 19 humbrol red, which I have used before for the belting on almost every model of classic lifeboat I have built.

                                  Bought some nice soft "squirral" hair brushes, two straight cut, and one rounded end brush for the extreme ends to the belting.

                                  I will get started on the four belts tomorrow, hopefully finishing by putting on the white boot topping by early evening.

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                                  #104559
                                  Richard Simpson
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                                    @richardsimpson88330

                                    Neil, In my younger days I frequently built motorcycle models, mainly Tamiya 1/12th scale and Heller 1/9th scale kits. This is in the days when they were a fiver! Anyway I could afford the kits but no way could I afford air brush gear so the only way I could paint them was by brush. Consequently I did quite a bit of experimenting to get the best finish by brush. At the end of the day the process I adopted was to A) Always use a brand new soft flat brush for the final coat and B) Always use a brand new tin of paint. I then started by washing the brushes out in clean new thinners to get any dust out of them and mixed the paint for a very long time.

                                    After many discussions in those days with fellow modellers regarding the time and money I was apparently wasting it is so good to see you confirming that such procedures are worth doing! It's taken around 50 years but I finally feel vindicated.

                                    The Kawasaki I built as a teenager and the Suzuki I built during my first trip to sea in 1977.

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                                    #104560
                                    neil hp
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                                      @neilhp

                                      beautiful bikes, and superb painting Richard………..they look brilliant. do you still have them.

                                      Remember the suzuki and the Duke from my days of following GP racing, but cant for the life of me remember who rode Suzzi no.10 as Sheene rode no.7 but did Foggy Fogarty ride the Duke………….havent a clue who road the Honda, and always remember the MCN saying in the road test of the "widow maker" as the Kwakka was dubbed, that she was the fastest bike between petrol stations………..on a hard ride she used to return an mpg of just 17 – 20…..but what incredible bikes they were especially when triumph and norton "superbikes" as they were regarded as, the Trident and the comando were light years behind the Jap bikes.

                                      I owned for just 4 weeks whilst in Australia, a Comando 850 Interstate, and what a bag of shackles that was……..soon moved on to a BMW R90s before leaving OZZ……….. and that was a nice bike, great handler and beautiful ballance on ozzy dirt track roads.

                                      Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 14/04/2023 14:02:00

                                      #104563
                                      Chris Fellows
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                                        As Neil says you have made a lovely job of those and if it wasn't for the spokes being a bit fat they look just like the real thing, especially the last one. Never got into bike kits because I could never find ones of my own bikes! One bike I had of that era was a 1980 Yamaha XS850 which got me hooked on triples so I had a few Triumph triples after that, modern ones. I have a 1973 Triumph Tiger 750 twin but the rest of my bikes are more modern.

                                        Mate of mine in Cornwall knows of someone who is selling a nice R100S.

                                        Chris

                                        Edited By Chris Fellows on 14/04/2023 16:30:52

                                        #104569
                                        neil hp
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                                          @neilhp

                                          Painting of the upper belting has begun.

                                          They are so large and heavy that I am painting just one side at a time until finished and dry. I will then turn them round and paint the second side tomorrow.

                                          One small pot has done two layers of paint so far on both boats, and probably a final coat this evening after my nightly dose of M*A*S*H…………EVERYTHING stops for that prog, lol.

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                                          #104574
                                          Chris Fellows
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                                            Is the red painted straight on over the blue? If so I guess it's because they are similar colour densities? Just wondered because I painted a couple of my Fairey hulls all white and didn't think I'd be able to overpaint part of the hulls with blue because of the colour difference.

                                            Chris

                                            #104575
                                            Richard Simpson
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                                              @richardsimpson88330

                                              I built a lot more than this over the years but these somehow survived.

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                                              The Kawasaki I built for a window display when I worked in a model shop in my teens. I went back to see the boss many years later and he'd saved the model for me. There were a couple of bits missing so I found a vintage unbuilt kit and paid silly money just so I could put the model back to original.

                                              The Duke is pre Foggy days and I'm not sure if anyone ever rode an RGB 500 with number ten on it! The Honda was by a custom company called Japauto, bored out to 950 and called the Bol D'Or.

                                              Sheene was, and still is, a hero of mine. Anyone who can drill a hole in the front of his helmet so he can have a fag on the start grid gets my vote.

                                              #104577
                                              neil hp
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                                                @neilhp
                                                Posted by Chris Fellows on 14/04/2023 23:26:24:

                                                Is the red painted straight on over the blue? If so I guess it's because they are similar colour densities? Just wondered because I painted a couple of my Fairey hulls all white and didn't think I'd be able to overpaint part of the hulls with blue because of the colour difference.

                                                Chris

                                                yes straight over Chris, but it needed 3 coats to get a full even cover……..i'm sure wih a white base, you might only beed two coats………but its just trial and error.

                                                #104578
                                                neil hp
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                                                  @neilhp

                                                  "Sheene was, and still is, a hero of mine. Anyone who can drill a hole in the front of his helmet so he can have a fag on the start grid gets my vote."

                                                  Saw him race a good few times, and in 1969 when I held an ACU clubmans licence I raced just once in the same race as him at Oulton, and after the start, I only ever saw him when he lapped me NUMEROUS TIMES on his Super Six, lol.

                                                  But my claim to fame is that I was once run over by him!!?

                                                  I was teaching in Preston at the time and a lad in my CDT year 10 class had entred the BP Build a car contest, model class. He won the age class of under 16's, and so he, his parents and I were invited to the prize presentation at Bordon Army camp, and then a day at the press day of the motor show at Earls Court.

                                                  I was stood oggling at the new Aston Martin le Man's race car on show, when my foot was driven [or more to the point ridden over] by no other than Barry Sheene in his wheel chair after his final crash that nearly klled him.

                                                  I looked down and my jaw dropped at seeing who it was, he looked up and said "sorry mate, not much good with 4 wheels, mind you, not much f*****g good on two wheels either"…..we stood laughig together for a good 2 minutes, before shaking hands and he moved on….

                                                  A great memory in my life, as I thought of him as a great rider and in his day almost as good as SMB Mike the bike Hailwood.

                                                  #104579
                                                  Chris Fellows
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                                                    Chap I used to work with used to share a flat with Mike Hailwood when they were both young and appeared on This Is Your Life.

                                                    Motorcycle racers are another breed. I remember riding through a 30 mph section on the IOM TT course with trees and walls on either side and thinking that they go through at well over 150mph! I did have a smile on my face elsewhere though where I passed a 30 sign doing over 100!

                                                    Chris

                                                    Edited By Chris Fellows on 15/04/2023 13:31:20

                                                    #104580
                                                    neil hp
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                                                      @neilhp

                                                      WELL, for a crap painter as I call myself, I am quite pleased with how the first of the two Barnetts has come out this evening.

                                                      And now pearched on one of the stands that I prepared earlier with pipe lagging to stop the hardened anti fouling from scratching on the bare ply uprights, I slowly took off all the masking from both the hull and the deck, and I like what I have done.

                                                      That is all that matters to me.

                                                      I will be adding some hull fittings and painting the bow gobeye ports and rope ports, plus some exhaust ports and water inlets under the hull bottom and add the boot topping tomorrow hopefully, before I can start on the second boat the same.

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