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    neil hp
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      As my old woodwork teacher told me when I was delaying gluing up an old edwardian style display cabinet in year 10 [fifth form olden times reckoning] of high school that I had made for GCE "O" level………..I will always remember the saying….

      C'mon boy!…….Procrastination is the Thief of Time!……get on with the bally thing!…… he was a Welsh man, and an ex RAF fighter pilot, so swore poshly!

      So this morning I glued the bilge keels on to the hulls of both boats…….somehing I had been dreading as they are so long!, and curvey!

      Must say, all went well, and sticking them down into place with some very strong carpet joining tape there is just the filling of places where the wood of the keels doesn't quite mate up with the grp….

      I used 30 minute epoxy on this job.As my old woodwork teacher told me when I was delaying gluing up an old edwardian style display cabinet in year 10 [fifth form olden times reckoning] of high school that I had made for GCE "O" level………..I will always remember the saying….

      C'mon boy!…….Procrastination is the Thief of Time!……get on with the bally thing!…… he was a Welsh man, and an ex RAF fighter pilot, so swore poshly!

      So this morning I glued the bilge keels on to the hulls of both boats…….somehing I had been dreading as they are so long!, and curvey!

      Must say, all went well, and sticking them down into place with some very strong carpet joining tape there is just the filling of places where the wood of the keels doesn't quite mate up with the grp….

      I used 30 minute epoxy on this job.

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      #102647
      Chris Fellows
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        @chrisfellows72943

        You didn't have to say it for each hull Neil!

        Progressing nicely.

        Chris

        #102648
        ashley needham
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          @ashleyneedham69188

          Wow, all that accurate drilling!!

          An earlier comment on the smallness off the props shows up in one of those shots, however we know they are to scale, and if you made a supertanker no doubt the scale prop would look tiny against the hull!

          Ashley

          #102649
          neil hp
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            @neilhp
            Posted by Chris Fellows on 01/11/2022 10:14:31:

            You didn't have to say it for each hull Neil!

            Progressing nicely.

            Chris

            didn't realise i'd done that Chris….i'm getting more stupid as i get older, lol.

            #102650
            neil hp
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              @neilhp

              The tunnel affects the power with the small props Ashley……..i suppose an early form of jet drive.

               

              Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 01/11/2022 18:16:05

              #102664
              neil hp
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                @neilhp

                I took the tape off the two models over the last 24 hours that was holding all of the bilge keels in place.

                The have stuck firmly but have left some gaps between them and the hulls.

                And so, I got out the Dolphin Glaze and started filling them in from one side first. I will then turn the boats atound and fill in from the other side later this afternoon.

                The great thing about Dolphin Glaze which Dave Stavros Jones recommended to me is, it sticks well, easy to sand, and goes off relatively quickly, and so you get used to mixing small amounts with no wastage.

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                #102667
                neil hp
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                  @neilhp

                  All 16 sides of the 8 bilge keels have now been filled with Dolphin Glaxe fine surface filler, and curing hard, before sanding tomorrow.

                  I also got out my small tin of P40 glass strand reinforced "filler" and bonded in the propellor tubes into the two boats, and these have now also been left to cure until tomorrow!.

                  Then the next job is to fit the under deck on both boats to give them both a "tank" like rigidity and solidness before i start work on sanding the hulls down smooth, filling any irregularities and dints, bumps and "sharp edges" ready for eventual painting.

                  And once this has all been done, i can fit the Aframes for the aft bearings on the propeller shafts.

                  And once that has been done…….i can start the proper building………the detailing, which hopefully i can start sometime next week…might have it ready for a New Years Day sail, lol.

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                  #102680
                  neil hp
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                    @neilhp

                    img_4316.jpgI ran out of the set of "A" frames that I am using on one of the boats, and also running out of propane for my gas torch, so couldn't silver solder the second leg on to the frames shown in the photos.

                    And so, I am just going to use them as "P" frames on the second boat……makes life easier.

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                    #102750
                    neil hp
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                      @neilhp

                      Haven't done anything for a few days on the lifeboats, as have been sorting out some gear to exchange with a friend that I was meeting in Harrogate. And even though 3 days of sorting………i still left something behind which I will now have to post.

                      Also have been putting off setting the "A" frames for the other lifeboat untill I had them perfectly possitioned which came just the night before I went to Yorkshire yesterday.

                      So this evening I have drilled the legs and pinned them, and just waiting for the glue to set before I glue them in position, making sure that the prop shafts turn very freely.

                      I will then back fll both sets from inside the boats with P40 to make the joints strong stiff and purposfull, and ready to take the torque of the motors and large propellers.

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                      #102753
                      neil hp
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                        @neilhp

                        Having done nothing for days, thought i'd pull my finger out.

                        Made 5 silicon rubber moulds for fittings which are now curing on the radiators.

                        And then fitted the sets of aft propeller shaft frames containing bearings from the outside of the tunnels, I re-infiorced them from the insides with P40 stranded filler.

                        Now I can begin to fit the under decks on both boats, as the fore and aft sections of the hulls dont need further access.

                        This can start tomorrow as impetus has been gained again……it helps nicely to relax and sip a nice bottle of fruity Australian Red wine.

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                        #102757
                        neil hp
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                          @neilhp

                          NOW!!!………..All the stern shaft bearings are set and so strong I've turned my lifeboat into a container ship………

                          Not really………just fitted the fore and aft decks of the first of the two lifeboats, using 4mm ply that was a feebee back in July from Ulverston.

                          I glued, timber to timber using quick grab waterproof aliphatic resin wood glue. I shall leave it for a couple or so hours, before removing all of the batteries weighing the decks down to the framework.

                          Then I can make the two side under decks before doing the second boat, the same way.

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                          #102759
                          neil hp
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                            @neilhp

                            Dare I use the punn, that everything went shipshape in gluing the fore and aft decks onto the boat.

                            They glued well after leaving them for just over 3 hours to set and cure, and then it was the turn to cut and glue in place the side [or "wing"] decks, which took me less than 20 minutes for the two.

                            I think that now that I have done one boat, the second boat tomorrow will go like shelling peas…quickly and easily.

                            I had doubts about using 4mm ply for the sub deck, but now that I have, the boat has turned out like a battleship, strong sturdy and invincible! dont think even the TEAL or TERN site seeing cruisers sailing Windermere would damage them if they hit her, lol.

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                            #102763
                            neil hp
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                              @neilhp

                              First boat with its sub deck totally fitted, and glue has set and cured.

                              Second container boat almost ready for fitting out as the fore and aft main decks have been fitted……..just JOKING………lifeboat lol.

                              As I said much earlier, building two of the same take little more time than building one and then another seperately. the two decks on the first boat took me around an hour and a quater yesterday afternoon, before the side decks adden last night taking just over 1.45 hours……..and that didn't include gluing and setting times individually.

                              This mornings cutting and setting in glue, just 20 minutes. and by the time I get back from where I am going to this morning, the glue will have set and cured and so I can cut and glue in the side decks.

                              And after filling the gaps between the grp bulwarks and timber decks, I can clean all of the hulls and decks up, ready for "fitting out."

                              The detail builds are almost ready to start!…….YIPPEEE!

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                              #102764
                              neil hp
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                                @neilhp

                                The second boat has had its side deck parts added, and after leaving for roughly 7 hours to set and cure whilst I have been casting fittings for the boats in polyurethane resin. a few more yet to cast for 3 boats , but I'll get there.

                                So after I had taken all the weights off the second boat, I decided to give myself a little trip into the future, and place the superstructure on to one boat and imagine the future.

                                And tomorrow I'll come back down to realityand start filling in the gaps between the hull and the decks, to make a totally waterproof fit.

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                                #102767
                                Richard Simpson
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                                  @richardsimpson88330

                                  I don't think they look anything like a container ship Neil, an ironing board maybe but not a container ship!

                                  #102769
                                  neil hp
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                                    @neilhp

                                    i was thinking i could do the ironing on it Richard …..especially as i have a curvy figure myself lol.

                                    #102800
                                    neil hp
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                                      @neilhp

                                      Before I started the most laborious job there is when making multiple boats that is hand casting the numerous fittings that are needed to build and adourn each boat, and I must have cast over the last 3/4 days a few hundred, which now all need cleaning of flash and lumps and bumps…..but I'll get there, and do a few bags per night whilst watching tv,and there are bags and bags of fittings, I shall have to revert my attention back to the hulls.

                                      And tomorrow I'll be back to the hulls which have had their sub decks fitted and do some filling between the grp hulls and the wooden decks.

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                                      #102814
                                      neil hp
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                                        @neilhp

                                        NOW!!!…………..thats a job done…

                                        Both boats have had the gaps around the gunnals and joints between deck timbers filled with P38 filler……….

                                        and over the next few days a lot of sweat and toil sanding it. and the bilge keels, plus hulls smooth on both boats..

                                        I can feel severe fatigue in my old arthritic fingers coming on, just at the thoughts of such work………but it has to be done and before i can do anything else.

                                        As someone once said in history……"I might be gone some time"

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                                        #102877
                                        neil hp
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                                          @neilhp

                                          When I asked my friend after seeing a number of very illuminating photos of the William and Kate Johnston posted on the internet whether he wanted his model built as the above boat rather than the Princess Mary, he jumped at the chance.

                                          This gave me the chance to make a few new fittings which were privvy to the William and Kate rather than the Princess Mary.

                                          One of these is the rather primative looking anchor windlass, which I have started fabricating from 1.5mm plasticard, and it is going well, at the moment!

                                          You can see from the anchor windlass that is to go on to the Princess Mary, just 6 years of development down the line, why I say, primative to that supplied on the William and Kate.

                                          The differences are just groundbreaking for the years between them, 1923-1929

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                                          #102878
                                          neil hp
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                                            @neilhp

                                            And then it was time to start detailing themain motor housing,………

                                            All done with plasticard and EMA plasticweld glue.

                                            Then I'll have to look in my box of spare fittings for some capstains and pulleys.to finish it off

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                                            #102880
                                            neil hp
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                                              @neilhp

                                              The bases for the anchor chain roller and the anchor chain stopper have been fabricated tonight, and once I have raided my box of spare fittings I will add them to the bases tomorrow!

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                                              #102883
                                              neil hp
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                                                @neilhp

                                                Detailing the engine box this afternoon, I found I didn't have a capstan big enough, and so found a block of resin and turned it into a capstan, and mounted it on an already turned alluminium ring.

                                                The I used a couple of vent bases sanded down with lower flanges for the side rollers and utilized a white metal base [from something that I cant remember its purpose on another model] for the hydraulic hose.

                                                And the rollers are those little things [havent a clue what they are called] that you put your golf ball on before you wack it with your bat!

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                                                Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 18/11/2022 19:57:54

                                                #102886
                                                neil hp
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                                                  @neilhp

                                                  Apart from a few bolt heads and a few rivets here and there, these are ready for painting and then fixing to the deck.

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                                                  #102890
                                                  James Hill 5
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                                                    @jameshill5

                                                    Nice work Neil, I`m a fan of plasticard as well. So easy to use and able to fit a lot of detail with it. Once painted you wouldn`t know what it was made of.

                                                    Regards, Jim.

                                                    #102892
                                                    neil hp
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                                                      @neilhp
                                                      Posted by James Hill 5 on 19/11/2022 12:38:31:

                                                      Nice work Neil, I`m a fan of plasticard as well. So easy to use and able to fit a lot of detail with it. Once painted you wouldn`t know what it was made of.

                                                      Regards, Jim.

                                                      yes, a brilliant material……….and not nearly as much waiting time to glue together as timber or preperation for painting, and at 10 yards out who knows wgat the fittings are made from………..but still like my varnished timbers on the old classic lifeboats.

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