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      got a Thames river police kit so made a start putting it together last night , using pva wood glue as instructed so can only do small stages at a time while glue drys . Has anyone built one of these before ? I believe it's a aerokit but correct me if I'm wrong ?

      How do you upload pictures on here ? Done it before but forgotten how ! Upload pictures to a album on the photo section but how do I get from there to a thread ?

      Matt

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        Dave Milbourn
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          #64742
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            Thanks Dave I have Sussed it now .

            #64745
            Tony Hadley
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              Matt, here is some information on the original –

              The photograph shows the full sized Police Launch at Waterloo in 1940.

              Phil Smith (Veron's designer) based the model on a 1:12 scale model held in the NMM. The link shows the model.

              **LINK**

              police launch @ waterloo 1940.jpg

              I built one some years ago, which I was never happy with. The model suffered heavy damage whilst stored in the shed during a cold winter and I scrapped it. Will have a look for some photographs to post.

              Does your model have the roof mounted air horns supplied? The original ones as supplied in the 1950s/60s//70s Veron kit are still available and are in Reade Models range of fittings.

              #64746
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                Seems a good quality kit but time will tell , no it has not got any horns . I will add pictures as I go if your interested? Yes post some pictures please .

                #64754
                Dodgy Geezer 1
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                  Posted by Associated on 19/04/2016 07:32:10:

                  got a Thames river police kit so made a start putting it together last night , using pva wood glue as instructed so can only do small stages at a time while glue drys . Has anyone built one of these before ? I believe it's a aerokit but correct me if I'm wrong ?

                  How do you upload pictures on here ? Done it before but forgotten how ! Upload pictures to a album on the photo section but how do I get from there to a thread ?

                  Matt

                   

                   

                  If it's one of these, it's Veron : **LINK**

                  If it's one of these, it's Aerokits: **LINK**

                  I think the original Veron kit was balsa – the Aerokits would have been ply.  I understand that both are ply now…

                   

                   

                  Edited By Dodgy Geezer on 19/04/2016 14:36:04

                  #64756
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                    It's a aerokit but not that boat listed .

                    #64768
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                      That’s odd. I don’t know of any other aerokits police launch. Where did you get it from?

                      #64769
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                        I got this one given to me from a friend who's late father was going to build it .

                        #64770
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                          Are you sure that it's a 'Police Launch', then? Here is a list with pictures of most of the Aerokits range – which one does it look like? **LINK**

                          #64771
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                            Sorry it's the police launch by vintage model boats .

                            **LINK**

                            One at top of the page … I got told my friends late father only had just bought it before he died , he was clearing his place after a couple of weeks I believe so not an old kit at all .

                            #64776
                            Tony Hadley
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                              Matt,

                              Had a look around and found some photographs of the Veron Police Launch. The last one shows the roof detail including the air horns. The lifebelt had to shaped from obeche as nowhere could one be found to the same size as the one shown on the plan.

                              Motor was a Graupner ECO 600, but the model never saw the lake. Today, a brushless set-up would be better.

                              Somehow I regret not repairing the model and having some lakeside pleasure.

                              Veron Police Launch

                              Veron Police Launch

                              Veron Police Launch

                              #64777
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                                That's really nice model that is !

                                I'm going brushless , already got my motor but didn't know how small they was , it's a 1020kv can't remember the wattage off top of my head . Going to try on 2 cell 4450mh 25c if not il go up to 3 cell .

                                #64778
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                                  Only just started but a lot  of this one seems pin to plans and glue method bit different to the twinkler I have built .

                                  Edited By Associated on 20/04/2016 14:55:32

                                  #64787
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                                    In the booklet the prop shaft mentioned is a 8" but is that the complete length of just the outer tube ?

                                    Thanks

                                    #64791
                                    Tony Hadley
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                                      Matt,

                                      Had a look in the shed and found the propeller shaft which had been removed from my Police Launch. I've overlaid in on the plan. The length of mine was a 7" outer tube, which is shorter than the original plan, or the 8" suggested on the instructions provided with your kit. The reason for the shorter shaft was to allow for the length of the huco coupling and ECO 600 motor. This installation still retained the correct tube length under the hull.

                                      Looking at the original plan, the shaft length is approx 7.75" long which appears to be a unit manufactured for the 1 cc E.D. BEE Diesel, which would have been the power unit many years ago. This appears to be a close-coupled unit, without having seen one I can only guess no flexible joint was part of this early installation.

                                      The propeller in the photograph isn't the correct one ( It's obviously too big just happened to be one I had in the spares box), screwed on for this illustration. It may be worth laying out your chosen coupling, motor and propeller before choosing and ordering the shaft.

                                      police launch prop unit.jpg

                                      #64793
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                                        Thanks , never thought of that ! The brushless motor is quite small in length but need room if I change to a different motor in future , gone for a 6 MM tube diameter. Started to put the formers on this morning as got a day off work . Quite a good kit so far but a few bits needed trimming and a couple of the formers was not square just glued and with a ratchet type clamp managed to squeeze the gap up .

                                        Matt

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                                          Oh and also what the best type of coupling to go for ?

                                          #64802
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                                            This appears to be a close-coupled unit, without having seen one I can only guess no flexible joint was part of this early installation.

                                            Early marine motors often had a ball-and-socket joint or two pins attached right at the flywheel. There would certainly have been a coupling, but it could well be no more than 1/2" to 1/4" in total length – even hidden inside the depression at the centre of the flywheel. The longer universal joint couplings that we use nowadays were a later invention – initially sold under the 'Huco' name, as I recall…

                                            See https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Vintage+Burford+Taipan+Marine+Diesel&client=opera&hs=Y2E&tbm=isch&imgil=bfa8f9g2FuIeXM%253A%253BLyaHSmnfeum6WM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.pinterest.com%25252Fpin%25252F309411436876580532%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=bfa8f9g2FuIeXM%253A%252CLyaHSmnfeum6WM%252C_&usg=__7U_jaH5nqBnwQtPKD_y6SVXCrKk%3D&biw=1880&bih=942&ved=0ahUKEwiW8u6S0J_MAhUpBsAKHSgOAXEQyjcIKA&ei=W7kYV9bYO6mMgAaonISIBw#imgrc=bfa8f9g2FuIeXM%3A

                                            or http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/6/3/4/t2775072-100-thumb-DC%20RC-Spitfire%20small2.jpg?d=1253647675

                                            Edited By Dodgy Geezer on 21/04/2016 12:29:07

                                            Edited By Dodgy Geezer on 21/04/2016 12:35:22

                                            #64805
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                                              Ahhh I see . What modern coupling would you surgest on brushless motor ?

                                              #64809
                                              Ian Gardner
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                                                I don't think the type of motor matters when choosing a coupling but I did discover that the red Huco type couplings are only designed for relatively low power applications and are noisy. I have found the couplings made by Steve Tranter at Model Boat Bits to be excellent- much quieter.

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                                                I have used the bigger ones he makes -but beware, they do differ in length from the Huco ones.

                                                #64812
                                                Dave Milbourn
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                                                  I've now built four models with brushless motors and I've used Steve's Microflex couplings in all of them.

                                                  DM

                                                  #64814
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                                                    I used one before and are good but I'm sure the motor shaft is 5mm but il re check that .

                                                    #64834
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                                                      Been plodding along slowly but not impressed how the upper and lower chine fits together the plan to pin to is longer than the peices where you got the joint had to be half pulled out from next peice and glued , I will have to reinforce later once know nothing in the way .

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