Vic Smeed’s HMS Cossack MM500

[Eddie LancasterParticipant @eddielancaster]

Nah, you can't have too many weights.

Eddie.

Edited By Eddie Lancaster on 18/07/2019 14:47:44

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

I'm really brassed off now!

Edited By Roger Clark on 18/07/2019 16:03:33

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I'll raise you Eddie, this is what weights look like….

Colin

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi All

Who said humour was lead 😀

Regards Ray

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Those two big green weights at the bottom weigh a ton! I'm told they are balance weights off a Boeing 747. I've had them over 35 years. I think they are tungsten and not depleted uranium! (hopefully!)

They are really useful for all sorts of things but drop one on your foot and you are looking at jam!

Colin

[John W EParticipant @johnwe]

One way to find out if they are tungsten as in tungsten carbide is to take try filing one of the blocks and if it takes the teeth off the file, you know its tungsten, but, don't drop it on your foot – John

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

This conversation is getting weigh too heavy for me!

[Eddie LancasterParticipant @eddielancaster]

I will have to look out those old 56 Lb weights from the time when spuds came in 1 cwt.hessian sacks, and the old railway sacks full of wheat came in at 2 1/2 cwt..

Any way back to the job in hand.

Ready for the frames,or do I start to shape the bottom of the hull?

Eddie.

Edited By Eddie Lancaster on 18/07/2019 19:25:36

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Put the frames on then you can fair them into the bottom planking. This form of construction is simple and economical in materials and you can correct errors by adding extra material if needed.

Colin

[Eddie LancasterParticipant @eddielancaster]

Thanks Colin, will do.

Eddie.

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Ray. Sorry, have several thing to build first, but a great idea, a mass build.

There was a great opportunity for a mass landing craft build, with free plans in 2014 for the D-Day anniversary, however this was only taken up at Bushy. An opportunity missed.

I shall look forward to the pictured of a division sail using massed Cossacks (with different pennant numbers!)

Ashley NB…I often wondered why Colin has a greenish glow about him when the sun goes behind a cloud…..

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

It's your reflection Ashley…

Colin

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

!!!

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Good evening Cossacks,

I thought I'd start at the sharp end and work to the stern with the bulkheads with notches out for 3/16" square inwhales to give the deck a better fixing area, also made the stem from 1 /16" ply to make it more sturdy 😀

regards Ray

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi All,

Looking the part now, using the strip at the deck edge gives you the chance to see how wonky the bulkheads are and eye them through and make adjustments, the stern is going to be interesting as she wasn't designed for access to the rudder. As designed with a single rudder, but as she will have twin screws I think we need twin rudders? Space is tight and access has to be allowed for, so plenty to think about 😀

Regards Ray

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I think the original ships had single rudders. From what I remember of my Cossack build, space in the stern was very tight and I think it might be difficult to fit non scale twin rudders.

However the two shafts were quite close together so a single rudder might still be quite effective if the blade intercepts the water flow from the props.

Colin

[Eddie LancasterParticipant @eddielancaster]

Hi. Ray, I am at about the same stage as you, I hadn't thought about taking out the centre of the frames though.

I have put the false deck in place at the stern and will cut an access hole through it and fit some sort of hatch over the top.

The Deans Marine version has a single rudder with twin props and that works fine, I will post a photo of it next week as I am going down to Broadstairs tomorrow for the week.

Regards.

Eddie.

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Eddie,

Have a good trip, if the original Tribals only had one rudder as Colin says happy days 😀 not sure if the stern is drawn accurately I may have to do some adjustment as it's looking strange to me, it will all come out in the wash !!

Thanks Colin.

KR Ray

[Eddie LancasterParticipant @eddielancaster]

Hi.All, some photo's of my friends Deans Marine Cossack to 1/96 scale.

The rudder perhaps over scale at 1 3/4" long X 1 1/2" deep, but it works well, the shape is correct as it was taken from an original blue print.

The rear gun deck.

The mid section, the red areas are raised walkways for the crew for when the decks are awash in heavy seas.

The bridge.

The bows and fore deck.

I hope these are of some use to you all.

Regards.

Eddie.

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Eddie,

Brilliant, as many photos as you like, will be great help 😀 enjoy the seaside the Tartar Frigate, near Bleak House is recommended 😄

Regards Ray

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Ok I'm throwing a moody now, it's too hot and I took the plan to a place to have my copies made and the comment is 'ooh we're not sure how to do this, it's on A0 paper and our scanner is only A1. We'll have to have a play and work out how we can best do it, oh and what it'll cost, probably £15 – £20 but we'll let you know by Friday'!

Different to the £10 plus 3.75 for a second copy they quoted on Saturday, had to walk out before my fuse burnt to the end.

Roger

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Roger,

Cut your drawing down to the actual drawing it has wide margins then cut the drawing into 2 sections down the middle the width is what causes them a problem should be £4.50 for the 2 prints

Regards Ray

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Cheers Ray, I did see your earlier comment and have said that to them but as you know 'work with monkeys…..

[Roger ClarkParticipant @rogerclark]

Yours is looking good I must admit, and what is that lurking in the top right? a sailing catamaran?

Edited By Roger Clark on 24/07/2019 13:34:02

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Roger,

Shall I get the enlargements and send them to you ? It would be good to see some more Cossacks being built 😀

Yes long running catamaran project coming along its a 1978 Comanche 32 bit of a challenge to keep it light, just ordered the sails from Frank at Nylet so I'd better get on with that aswell 😯

Regards Ray

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