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  • #51671
    lnvisibleman
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      @lnvisibleman

      I know it will be a while yet but I am getting the workshop ready for this one.

      Hammers are polished, screws are sorted ( 2" x No 8s will do ) axes ground, Gripfill at the ready.

      A pair of lightweight brushless motors on order and a suitable esc. **LINK**

      **LINK**

      Thumb twiddling starts now.

      Mike

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      #6975
      lnvisibleman
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        @lnvisibleman

        Building his latest design. I feel The need for SPEED

        #51676
        ashley needham
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          @ashleyneedham69188

          Mike, do you have the small nuclear reactor sorted to supply this sort of current to your drive??

          You do mean a PAIR of ESC dont you??

          Ashley

          #51679
          lnvisibleman
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            @lnvisibleman

            Ashley

            I forgot to mention that. I have a contact at Stark Industries that is helping out with that part.

            http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/154/4/f/iron_man_arc_reactor_by_jamezzz92-d525l6b.jpg

            Mike

            Yes I did mean a pair.

            Edited By lnvisibleman on 30/08/2014 08:22:51

            #51681
            ashley needham
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              @ashleyneedham69188

              That looks like the stator from the Lucas alternator off my BSA !!

              Ashley 140A…….

              #51683
              Bob Abell 2
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                @bobabell2

                Think back a few months, chaps, where I mentioned a rudder at the bows of Brutus!

                i was pooh poohed out of town!

                Lo and behold…..ScaryKat has a rudder at the front of each sponson…..lol

                I was only being silly at the time!

                Bob

                #51685
                ashley needham
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                  @ashleyneedham69188

                  Bob, they are so fickle, eh?? Ashley

                  #51686
                  lnvisibleman
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                    @lnvisibleman

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                    Edited By lnvisibleman on 30/08/2014 08:58:10

                    #51688
                    Diede van Abs
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                      @diedevanabs87670

                      Hi Mike,

                      Did I miss something? ScaryKat sounds disturbingly interesting, yet I cannot find plans nor design sketches… Come on, shoooow us the candy (pictures)!

                      I am very curious as to how the behaviour of the vessel will be with the bow rudders, my gut feel says it will dive and dig in its nose at high speed turns but we'll have to see once the first one has been built. It will certainly be feeling quite different as to what one is used to.

                      Another thing: If this is just for thrashing around at moderately high to high speeds these are the motors for you. However if you want to manoeuver in scale harbours or do a steering course as well, you might want to look for other more suitable motors. These motors get their power from very strong magnets and a few, very tightly wrapped coils which is great for top speeds and power at higher speeds, but they won't rev up until you are at 1/3rd of your stick travel. They are built with heli's and planes in mind, really. (I once had a pair of them, sold them because they did not rev slow enough to my liking)

                      Now, bring on the eye-candy and start building, I will follow this thread with great interest and curiosity!

                      #51690
                      lnvisibleman
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                        @lnvisibleman

                        Good Morning Diede

                        From my perspective all that I want is MORE POWER !! I've got boats to manoov stear gently at low speeds.

                        I made a very special request of the great Mr T to tick off one of my bucket list items and he has very kindly obliged,

                        You will have to join me on the thumb twiddling bench until something shows up. Hopefully it will be like the busses, nothing much at the moment but loads coming soon.

                        Mike

                        #51693
                        Diede van Abs
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                          @diedevanabs87670

                          Hmmm, sound great except for the waiting part wink I am very curious what Paul will come up with!

                          #51694
                          Dave Milbourn
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                            @davemilbourn48782

                            I'm curious to know what the advantage of bow-mounted rudders is and why few (if any) full-size boats seem to have them. I'm also amazed that you can get a brake-horsepower (720W) from a motor about half the length and the same diameter as a 540! My new model may be overpowered………
                            DM

                            #51695
                            lnvisibleman
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                              @lnvisibleman

                              I haven't a clue Dave except that it may pull the bow round and avoid skipping round a corner.

                              I'm game for a laugh ant time so will be giving it a go when the plans arrive.

                              It is amazing how much power these brushless devils produce, it must be some sort of magic.

                              I will be running on 4s so they will give me a total of 1750 W. That's why it's called ScaryKat

                              Mike

                              #51696
                              Bob Abell 2
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                                @bobabell2

                                Keeping the pot boiling…..They are not actually rudders……But something more hi-tech!

                                Bob

                                #51697
                                lnvisibleman
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                                  @lnvisibleman

                                  OOOOOH ! The mystery deepens !!

                                  #51700
                                  Paul T
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                                    @pault84577

                                    I only mentioned that it will be called ScaryKat and we already have two pages of postings about it.

                                    To add to the mystery …..think laterally about rudders.

                                    To add to the fun…….would anyone like to comment on the feasibility of bow mounted rudders?

                                    Paul

                                    Edited By Paul T on 30/08/2014 15:37:24

                                    #51701
                                    mike farrell
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                                      @mikefarrell21522

                                      Hi Paul I am curious as to where the rudders go unless the are mounted under the bows? If so no probs with the servos if so

                                      Maybe a section of the bows(lower section ) will be moveable allowing slow or fast turns to be made without causing the boat to flip over

                                      Could a geared cog system with short belts between bows and High Torque Servo be a possible answer

                                      Glad its your thought process not minecoolMichaelwink

                                      #51702
                                      Paul T
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                                        @pault84577

                                        Hi Mike

                                        You are almost right with your second assumption and it might help everyone if they thought more laterally about the term 'rudder'

                                        The thought process is simple, its the application of the process that is more complex.

                                        Paul

                                        #51703
                                        lnvisibleman
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                                          @lnvisibleman

                                          Could we be thinking more in the line of bow plane that will counteract the natural tilt of the hull when turning ?

                                          And do they necessarily have to be on the bow? Hows about towards the front of the deck ?

                                          Mike

                                          #51704
                                          ashley needham
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                                            @ashleyneedham69188

                                            Crafty, its a flexible hull isn`t it !! the hull curves to effect a turn !!! Clever…

                                            The navy tried ahead mounted rudders in the 1880`s for battleships and TBD`s. The idea was more for battle damage resiliance and control when reversing. Was not adopted due to marginal results and additional complications.

                                            Ashley

                                            #51705
                                            lnvisibleman
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                                              @lnvisibleman

                                              Paul

                                              All I said was that I am sitting impatiently waiting for developments.

                                              It is hardly my fault that your fame has spread globally and everyone wants to know about it.

                                              All I ask is first view of the plans so that I can get mine racing first. Please !!!

                                              Mike

                                              and a materials list would be handy so that I have the required stock of shuttering ply

                                              Edited By lnvisibleman on 30/08/2014 17:25:08

                                              #51712
                                              Paul T
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                                                @pault84577

                                                First thoughts

                                                scarykat (small).jpg

                                                #51713
                                                Bob Abell 2
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                                                  @bobabell2

                                                  Paul

                                                  With a wide boat like this, you wouldn`t need a rudder?

                                                  What about electronic tank steering?……..But still use a normal rudder stick?

                                                  In the bow view….What are those lines in the middle, low down?

                                                  Why a Kat?

                                                  Bob

                                                  #51715
                                                  Paul T
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                                                    @pault84577

                                                    Bob

                                                    Tank steering is to slow to respond around tight turns.

                                                    The part shown is a parabolic hydrofoil.

                                                    Why a Kat?…..you cant have a tilting monohull.

                                                    Paul

                                                    #51716
                                                    Diede van Abs
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                                                      @diedevanabs87670

                                                      Oh-My-God

                                                      That is going to be a mighty remarkable appearance on the water!!!

                                                      Can't wait for Mike to start building and racing it!!!

                                                      Edited By Diede van Abs on 30/08/2014 19:44:19

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