Prototype build of ELLIE

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing Office…..

OOOooooooops!

The legs are too short, but they can`t go where you`ve drawn them……The wall behind is only 1,5mm thick….And then we get the coaming!

Think we need a pivot base fastening to the outside of the cabin wall?

I think I have a cunning plan, my Lord

To follow…..

Capt B

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

The cunning plan my Lord!

Something similar……..A neat block or a pretty aluminium bracket would be acceptable?

Or we could fasten another length of strip to make the support longer?

We need to be clear of the coaming……..The strips are 6mm clear of the cabin wall, each side

Paul…..Don`t you go worrying about it tonight……It`s an interesting problem

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

I had intended the roof frame fixings through the cabin walls to be countersunk from the inside with dome headed fasteners on the outside.

In this way the pivots wouldn't foul the coaming.

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 19/09/2013 19:28:52

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

OK Boss…………There`s no catching you out!

I`ll make wooden packers where the screws go, to give the fixing a bit of bulk and countersink the screws, 1.5mm ply is a bit feeble……And make some longer strips

What is the dimension from the top of the cabin roof and the underside of the canopy?

And also, what is the approx scale of this model?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

From front top of cabin to front top of cockpit roof is 45mm

I haven't set a scale as the three different versions are all different size of boats.

Paul

[Andy CParticipant @andyc56856]

Hi Guys

Forgive a silly question. Where does the roof sit, is there another screen on top of the forward cabin roof, coz at the moment it looks like it sits in midair?

Andy

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Andy

There is another small screen fastened to the cabin roof and the canopy rests on top

You will see what we mean shortly

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Cracked it, Paul

This is my engineering solution and I like it

Small wooden block with the screws on the outside

At the moment, it can be moved about nicely

Bob

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

I've been hiding in the background, reading every word of this thread.

I can't wait for the plans to become available as I really fancy a beginners crack at this on.

I'm currently building a bodge built version of "LORRAINE" by Vic Smeed. This is my first attempt at such a large model but it is taking shape nicely.

Keep up the good designing, especially the builders !!!!!!

Edited By lnvisibleman on 20/09/2013 13:17:32

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mr Invisible

Many thanks for your post

The plans are not yet available, a few more weeks yet

All the best with your first build

Just got back from yet another trip out while the weather's still bearable, but a bit disappointed with the lack of comments regarding my last post, which I thought was worth some comment

Bob

[Tony HadleyParticipant @tonyhadley]

Bob,

I think your absence has been missed, it has been quiet. Like Mr Invisible I am also watching this build with great interest and I also like your engineering solution.

Unfortunately I don't think I will be building one of these as I have now run out of storage space, there is currently no room for a 36" model. A space has been cleared for Guardsman, as the little fishing boat has gone to Paul's charity. My surviving last large model, the Glasgow paddle tug takes quite a bit of storage room. Some of the joys of being a 'kitchen table' modeller, still I supose it is better than not carrying on with the hobby.

Tony.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Tony, for those kind words

Now then……..Shop floor to Drawing office

A Newbie building our model will require a drawing of the top windscreen assembly, under the hatch etc…..We haven`t got such a drawing

Shall I invent one and you copy it?

Will also require those long wooden hand grabs etc……That are fixed to the roof and anything else we need……Lifebelts etc…..And a handrail somewhere?

Bob, asleep amongst the shavings!

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The top windscreen is on drawing 15 and the long wooden hand grabs fall into the realm of optional extras as do lifebelts, handrails, fenders, pulpit rails, fairleads, cleats, masts and flags.

Have you made any progress today?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Made a start on the top windscreen, but not much progress at the moment

Was too nice to stay indoors today

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Attention Red Leader…..

On the latest drawings, the bottom edge of the canopy is shown straight across, as on the enclosed photo, but on the GA, the bottom edge is shown curved

What shall we do about this?……..I think curved will look better?

This is quite a tricky area to set up…….The swinging canopy is all over the place

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

I changed the design from curved to straight to make the detail less daunting for beginners but if you want to do a curve then we will see a better looking canopy which will give people something to aspire to.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Top windscreen in position, but not finalised yet

Paul…..The top edges of the side and front windows are not in line with the cab roof………..Is this intentional?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

The drawings show the top edges of the windows following the line of the cabin roof, have another look at drawings 15 and 17.

The windscreen looks great and I am very happy with how it sits on the cabin roof although the cockpit roof overhang looks a little excessive so I'm going to have another look at the design and see if I have made a mistake.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hi Paul

Can`t find sheets 15 and 17…..If they are the cabin sides, then they`ve been chopped up

I think you`ll find the windows are not all in line with the cabin roof?

Are you referring to the side overhang?

My front view drawing is not printed full size, so I exploited my artist`s licence!

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Bob

This is drawing 17

The line of the windows was also shown on the original concept drawings

 

 

My prototype also showed the line of the windows.

 

The overhang that I am looking at is the cockpit / windscreen.

Paul

 

Edited By Paul T on 25/09/2013 19:40:19

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Morning Red Leader

The front window doesn`t look inline with the previous window?

And looking at your model…………It`s just as bad!……….lol

Not a problem anyway

Any decision on the canopy mod yet?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Good Morning Chief Engineer

After much thinking I decided not to modify the cockpit (canopy) roof as it would entail redesigning the supporting frame to include a cranked detail.

Paul

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Have you decided upon a colour scheme yet and did the artdeco colours inspire your decision?

Paul

I vote for emerald green and old english white.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I like the idea of green and white, green hull and white cabin with a mahogany planked deck……but I'm not ready for the paint job yet

Still got a lot of finishing off to do yet

Once it's painted, I may loose interest!

Still got the drive mech to do yet

I need an exact dimension where the prop shaft breaks into and out of the keel, don't want to guess it and end up with an oversize ugly hole

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I like the idea of green and white, green hull and white cabin with a mahogany planked deck……but I'm not ready for the paint job yet

Still got a lot of finishing off to do yet

Once it's painted, I may loose interest!

Still got the drive mech to do yet

I need an exact dimension where the prop shaft breaks into and out of the keel, don't want to guess it and end up with an oversize ugly hole

Bob

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