Multi veneered deck

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

How to stick it?

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

Hi all

I would like to know the best way to adhere 0.6mm strips of veneer to a grp surface. I know that iron-on film will do the job but I am concerned that direct sun may loosen the bond. Am I being overly cautious or is there a better way?

Mike

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Scratch the plastic and use PVA

Bob

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

I tried that but the veneer just keeps lifting and curling. If I put anything on top to hold it down, the pva won't dry or the weight gets stuck too.  It's probably me that's doing it all wrong.

Edited By lnvisibleman on 08/05/2014 14:50:50

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Cover the veneer with clear plastic and weight it down

Be patient and it should work

Bob

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

It's not that I am impatient but with over 100 separate pieces to fit, this could take months. There must be a better way. Even if it only takes two or three hours for each strip to fix down, I am looking at four weeks of watching paint dry ( or in this case, PVA ) If I try to put more than one strip on at a time, there is a real danger of movement that would ruin the whole effect. These strips are alternately 2mm and 11mm wide.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Post a photo for further advice?

Bob

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I would be inclined to use industrial waterproof quality double sided tape. They stick planes together with it so it will be OK for your boat! Lay the tape strip by strip and simply press the veneer down on it, adding more tape as you progress across the deck. Give it a day or two and then varnish over.

You may need to do a bit of Googling to find the most suitable one unless someone can suggest a specific brand.

Colin

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

Colin

, that was a stroke of genius. Especially as I am a retired floor layer and happen to have a couple of rolls of low polymer dst in my drawer !! Why on earth didn't I think of that??

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

It's only fairly recently that it was pointed out to me that if you want to stick two things together glue isn't the only answer! Double sided tape is another string to your bow and the very thin stuff can give a perfect join without a glue line or adhesive seeping out from underneath the item to be stuck.

Colin

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

I'll let you know how I get on with that one !!

Be prepared for the boys to pay a visit if it all fouls up .

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

Colin

The double sided holds the veneer like a limpet. There is however a slight problem. Because the veneer is porous, when varnish is applied, it permeates through the veneer and attacks the adhesive. I have solved this problem by applying a thin coat of PVA to the back of the veneer before it goes on the tape and another thin coat after to seal any gaps between the strips. A light sand when dry and then a couple of light coats of varnish . It has given a finish that is more than good enough for me.

As an extra precaution against lifting on the edges, I left the tape a couple of millimetres short at the edges and used a thin line of epoxy . No wet stuff getting in there methinks. ( a photo of the finished job will be on "Lorraine" soon )

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Sounds like you cracked it then. With hindsight, sealing the underside of the veneer before application was the way to go but I doubt if I would have thought of that myself.

Colin

[Martin Field 1Participant @martinfield1]

Evo Stik, not the rubbish they now put in tubes, but the original stuff in tins which they sell for carpet and lining vehicles with trim.

Thin coat on the substrate, thin coat on the deck plank veneers, one by one and put them on after 5-10 minutes.

I used to use it on all my customer builds, including the Rivas, where the 7 hull planks shouldn't even show. I then epoxied the veneer, stained the epoxy (always stain the finish, never the wood) and then UV varnished over that. Glass like finish and no lifting of the veneer. I would never use PVA for anything! Admittedly the decks were solid wood, plank, caulking, plank, fixed with epoxy. Real Riva decks, however, contrary to popular belief, were plywood, made in High Wycombe and transported to Italy!

I am currently re-veneering my son's Triumph Renown dashboard this way and he is delighted with it.

Martin

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