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  • #2535
    Anthony Powell 1
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      Best masking tape

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      #62129
      Anthony Powell 1
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        @anthonypowell1

        Hi. I am new to ship modelling and having problems finding a masking tape which gives a good clean paint line but does not remove the paint from underneath it when removed. Currently doing a 2 tone hull with Billings acrylics – it would have sunk if it was a real ship as I have had to paint over the places where the tape has removed the paint underneath. Tried low tack, Tamiya and some plastic fine line masking tape for cars. Any suggestions?

        #62132
        Banjoman
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          @banjoman

          Hello Anthony,

          For my part, I have yet to find a better allround masking tape for model painting purposes than Tamiya. If the paint comes away like you describe, I would thus be inclined to seek the root of the problem elsewhere before looking for another tape.

          More specifically my first thought would have been that the paint didn't adhere well enough to the surface, either because said surface didn't give a good enough key for the primer to hold on to, or the primer and the paint did not like each other. What material is the hull, and which primer did you use?

          If there's good enough reason to think that the above is not the case, it might even more simply be that the paint is not yet dry enough! Acrylics are difficult in that way, due to the fact that they dry from the outside in, which means that they may feel completely dry to the touch, but may still have a, be it ever so thin, thin film furthest in that is not yet fully hardened, and therefore easily slides off together with the masking tape.

          Depending on circumstances (e.g. temperature, humidity, thickness of paint, brand of paint) an acrylic paint might be dry enough for masking over within 24 to 48 hours, or it might need even several weeks (!) before being fully cured all the way through. I don't know of any hard and fast rules, but have over time come to recognise the difference in feel with the paints that I mainly use – when not yet fully dry, the paint has, I find, an ever so slight but nevertheless recognisable "slickness" about it under the fingers that tells me I still need to be careful (and patient) …

          /Mattias

          #62134
          Paul T
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            @pault84577

            Hello Anthony

            I use Frog masking tape, it produces a crisp line with no 'bleeding' and doesn't pull the basecoat off when its removed.

            Paul

            #62140
            ashley needham
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              @ashleyneedham69188

              Getting a crisp line seems to be a combination of properly dried/cured paint, a nice smooth surface, and well rubbed down edges on the masking tape. I confess to using cheap masking tape, and don't normally have a problem. Some tape is better than others and the dodgy stuff can usually be judged by the coarser appearance (sorry that's a bit vague).

              If in doubt obviously you cannot go wrong with a modeling branded tape, but even then I would buy new, use, throw the rest away…masking tape of any age and wot has been hanging about for a while is no good.

              I have just sprayed a band of colour on a cabin, using Halfords spray paint, and the base coats/colours were also same, using cheap masking tape, and having let the cabin base coats dry for a few days and the crispness of line is a thing of beooty – handily, as I used a lot of tape and the cabin is all curves and and

              Ashley

              #62143
              Dave Milbourn
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                @davemilbourn48782

                I've always used Tamiya, too. It goes round corners better than anything else I've tried. I don't know Billings paint but with the usual rattle-can acrylics (e.g. Halfords) I always wait at least 24 hours before masking up and then I give it the nose test. Stick your conk right up against the paint and sniff; if you detect even the slightest wiff of solvent then leave it another 24 hours.

                Is there any particular type of Frog tape I might try? There seem to be several different ones.

                DM

                #62147
                Paul T
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                  @pault84577

                  Hi Dave

                  I tend to bounce between the delicate and multi surface tapes **LINK** depending upon the surface.

                  For fine lines I cut the tape width down with a Stanley knife.

                  Hope this helps

                  Paul

                  Edited By Paul T on 18/12/2015 11:19:43

                  #62148
                  Dave Milbourn
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                    @davemilbourn48782

                    Ta, m'duck!

                    #62153
                    Bob Abell 2
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                      @bobabell2

                      It`s also a good idea to remove the tape before the paint had dried

                      To allow the paint to settle down and avoid the sharp edge

                      Bob

                      #62165
                      mike farrell
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                        @mikefarrell21522

                        Hi Anthony ,Like Paul I use Frog tape and find it fine

                        A further tip is never paint up to the tape ,always down from the waste and tape.

                        I always spray(rattle can or spray gun ) and the same applies Good luck and you will suceedwinkMichael

                        #62871
                        Mark Jarvis 2
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                          @markjarvis2

                          Hi Anthony, i use different tape for different jobs, the paint edge with Tamiya for the paint edge, cheap tape to fill in and brown paper or plastic film to mask the rest of the area,

                          TOP TIP dust a fine mist of clear along the tape edge this guarantees a clean line

                          Mark

                          #63153
                          Anthony Powell 1
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                            @anthonypowell1

                            Hi all. Sorry for the delay in responding but have been laid up with a bad back for 2 months so no PC use and no modelling. Thanks for all your input and will try and respond accordingly.

                            Mattias – it is a Billings wooden hull and I used Billings primer on it. Underwhelmed by the end result as it looked "dusty" but assumed the company knew what it was talking about. Also, because it is my first model I have painted everything using a brush. Looking at some of the results I have invested in an air brush but have not used it yet as the garage is still too cold. I am impatient and have not waited 2 days for drying so that may be part of the issue too.

                            Paul – is that the Frog tape you use when separating colours when painting the house. I am in the UK and have seen it here.

                            Ashley – Thanks for the info on avoiding 'old' tape. Being thrifty I would have kept the Tamiya for the next models

                            #63154
                            Anthony Powell 1
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                              @anthonypowell1

                              Dave, Bob & Mike – Thanks for the responses

                              Mark – Is this clear varnish you are spraying on the tape edge?

                              #63157
                              CookieOld
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                                @cookieold

                                Hi Mark , Sorry i am not big on painting , what do you mean by( Dust a fine mist of clear)

                                Dave

                                #63161
                                Paul T
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                                  @pault84577

                                  Anthony

                                  I'm also in the UK and Frog is the best tape that I have ever used.

                                  Paul

                                  #63171
                                  Anthony Powell 1
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                                    @anthonypowell1

                                    Thanks Paul

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