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  • #49195
    Paul T
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      @pault84577

      Or better still this

      pf-james%20may%20-%20fig%2010.jpg

      James May has all the fun

      Paul

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      #49196
      Bob Abell 2
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        @bobabell2

        You are getting warmer!

        Bob

        #49200
        Bob Abell 2
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          @bobabell2

          Paul

          We need a nice name for the Vintage Gentleman's Cruiser?

          Something peaceful like……

          Mallard?……Or similar

          King Arthur?

          Days gone?

          No doubt you've got something lined up?

          Bob

          #49201
          Paul T
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            @pault84577

            I had intended to call the boat Lady Jane

            Paul

            #49202
            Bob Abell 2
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              @bobabell2

              Lady Jane?

              Very Suitabell!

              Bob

              #49203
              Paul T
              Participant
                @pault84577

                Yes but I am biased , do you have an alternative

                #49206
                Bob Abell 2
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                  @bobabell2

                  A motor fit for a Queen!

                  "The Lady Jane" cruiser in fact!

                  Paul`s latest creation, the Vintage Gentleman`s cruiser deserves an impressive motor

                  A motor that we would enjoy showing our fellow modellers with pride, at the pond and at shows!

                  The actual working motor drive for the model would look even more impressive, with brass handrails etc and some Bling……Dial gauges would look nice?

                  Paul……………….I`ve decided to build the model afterall! ……..Being a glutton for punishment…………….We had so much fun building the last three models, I suppose I`m hooked now?

                  Bob

                  PS……I've forgotten to show the prop shaft…..Use your imagination

                  lady jane motor.jpg

                  Edited By Bob Abell on 28/05/2014 10:26:23

                  #49207
                  lnvisibleman
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                    @lnvisibleman

                    Bob

                    Nice looking power unit , Hints of a big V8 driving twin alternators.

                    Motor detail on the big block and it will be a masterpiece. I wonder if I can find a 1/12 scale model of a massive V engine ?

                    Mike

                    #49208
                    Bob Abell 2
                    Participant
                      @bobabell2

                      Thank you, Mike

                      I've been thinking about this idea for some time

                      It should like quite nice in the model, as long as the wiring and stuff is neatly laid out?

                      Bob

                      #49209
                      lnvisibleman
                      Participant
                        @lnvisibleman

                        Bob

                        If you designed that engine with the electric motors under rocker covers, it would have a real feel to it .

                        #49210
                        Paul T
                        Participant
                          @pault84577

                          Bob
                          You could call it the lady Joyce and you should have the honour of naming the model especially as you have committed to building the 8ft version.
                          Paul

                          #49212
                          Bob Abell 2
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                            @bobabell2

                            Thank you, Paul

                            I think The Lady Jane is very appropriate

                            We are making the 5'-0" model version…..What is the Charity this time?……….Christies?

                            The fancy face mask has just arrived from Amazon

                            What about the ABELL motor then?……..What motors have you selected?……I could build that first?

                            Bob

                            #49213
                            lnvisibleman
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                              @lnvisibleman

                              I can only find a 1/6 scale V8, so can we have an 9 ft. 2 in. version too ?

                              Mike

                              Edited By lnvisibleman on 28/05/2014 12:49:33

                              #49216
                              Paul T
                              Participant
                                @pault84577

                                Bob

                                Christies is a good choice

                                I had intended to use a pair of 600 size motors but if you want to build a single prop version then it might be better to use a pair of 550s.

                                At 5ft this is a large build and might pose problems in getting the model down your stairs.

                                 

                                Mike

                                Be careful what you wish for.

                                Paul

                                Edited By Paul T on 28/05/2014 17:36:08

                                #49217
                                Bob Abell 2
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                                  @bobabell2

                                  Paul

                                  I don't understand the logic of using two 550's as opposed to two 600's because I'm using a single prop?

                                  I like big brass props

                                  The best way to get a chunky boat up and down stairs, is to slide it on a rope…..I'll try it anyway

                                  How wide is the hull in the motor area, please?

                                  Bob

                                  #49218
                                  Paul T
                                  Participant
                                    @pault84577

                                    Bob

                                    The change of motor size is simply economy of scale, instead of two motors driving two props having the two motors driving one prop means that the motors don't have to be as big……..and 550s are easily available.

                                    The model will certainly have a big brass prop

                                    The maximum width is 402mm (just under 16in)

                                    I can design the model with a split hull (as discussed before) to make moving and transport easier as I don't want to be responsible for Joyce finding you in a pile at the bottom of your stairs.

                                    Paul

                                    #49220
                                    Bob Abell 2
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                                      @bobabell2

                                      Paul

                                      Don't fancy splitting the hull

                                      I'll use 550 motors……Can you be more specific?…..Which manufacturer?

                                      Two motors driving one shaft…..What diameter of prop shaft do you recco?….and prop?

                                      I take it, you're not impressed with my ABELL motor drive?

                                      Bob

                                      #49221
                                      Paul T
                                      Participant
                                        @pault84577

                                        Bob

                                        Far from being unimpressed with the ABELL motor drive I am very impressed and have started recalculating the design to accommodate your idea.

                                        The 550s can be from anywhere, the only proviso is that they are a matched pair.

                                        As for the shaft I think its going to be around the 10mm size but you might have to engineer a one off special to accommodate the higher torque but I've not finished working it out yet.

                                        Paul

                                        #49222
                                        lnvisibleman
                                        Participant
                                          @lnvisibleman

                                          Paul

                                          When you say a 10mm shaft, do you mean outer tube diameter or inner shaft ?

                                          Just wondered coz I cant find a shaft with M10 thread, biggest I have come across is from MMM and that is only M5 thread.

                                          Mike

                                          #49223
                                          Paul T
                                          Participant
                                            @pault84577

                                            Hi Mike

                                            It will be either an inner shaft dia of 8mm or 10mm and the outer tube will be correspondingly 10mm or 12mm, given the odd size it will probably be a one off from the Abell precision engineering works.

                                             Sorry to be a little vague but I haven't worked out which will be the best for Bobs unique motor setup.

                                            Paul

                                             

                                            Edited By Paul T on 28/05/2014 19:03:59

                                            #49225
                                            lnvisibleman
                                            Participant
                                              @lnvisibleman

                                              Hmmmm ! Does he do commission works ?

                                              #49226
                                              Bob Abell 2
                                              Participant
                                                @bobabell2

                                                Sorry Mike

                                                i don't do commission work these days, I'm having a job doing my present projects

                                                I will probably make my own prop shaft though…….Probably 8mm shaft, with M6 thread should do the trick

                                                The prop size will decide the thread size, when we get down to it

                                                Bob

                                                #49227
                                                Paul T
                                                Participant
                                                  @pault84577

                                                  Bob

                                                  Re: the propshaft the calcs are showing an internal shaft dia of min 8mm (which might end up being 10mm) so we could be looking at an M10 shaft inside a 12mm tube.

                                                  So your engineering prowess is going to be needed.

                                                  Paul

                                                  #49235
                                                  lnvisibleman
                                                  Participant
                                                    @lnvisibleman

                                                    OK Bob, so a commission is out of the question. Could you instead come up with some kind of diagram showing how to make this prop shaft.

                                                    Please keep it in mind that my angle grinder is showing it's age now so I may have to use a club hammer and chisel instead !

                                                    Mike

                                                    #49237
                                                    Bob Abell 2
                                                    Participant
                                                      @bobabell2

                                                      Mike

                                                      What prop shaft are you on about?

                                                      Bob

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