Transport Trolley

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Paul. "model will have to be out of its box" why ??? with straps already around the model, the box gets put inside the framework, the lid removed, straps hooked up and off she goes (for instance) ????

Removing the model from the box at the pondside could be an issue in itself given the vast weight of models currently being built..

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

It is a difficult subject and I don't want to discriminate against anyone so the machine has to be as multi-user as possible.

Hi Ashley

'Removing the model from the box at the pondside could be an issue in itself'

Ipso facto

Paul

 

Edited By Paul T on 19/06/2015 15:25:52

[Andy HustlerParticipant @andyhustler32076]

Paul you can buy these wheels in Class Holsen as well as lots of other goodies .I was thinking of building a launching trolley based on a design i have seen in one of the magazines .I will have to work out some dimensions before the build and make it out of plastic pipes to keep it light and cheap . As for launching the boats maybe some sort of winch system to raise and lower the boat . I have the design in my mind and could sketch it out but would not know how to build it .

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

HI Andy

The wheels are cheaper on Amazon, my trolley will use a winch system to raise and lower the boats.

pm sent

Paul

[Dodgy Geezer 1Participant @dodgygeezer1]

Think laterally – build smaller boats!

Ah, another EeZeBilt convert…. but where are the kids these things were designed for?

[Dodgy Geezer 1Participant @dodgygeezer1]

Build an amphibious boat and let it tow you to the pond?

[Mark Jarvis 2Participant @markjarvis2]

Hi Paul,

Allowing for lifting in and out of the car, i can get some of the trollies that the postman uses, like a golf trolly, what about a cradle on the bottom shaped to the hull, they have large diaamiter wheels so would cross rough ground, also could be used to launch the boat just by rolling it into the water, recovery the reverse.

They fold up to a managable size to go in the boot

Mark

[ChrisBParticipant @chrisb29081]

Hi Paul. For a launching "machine" I have in mind a long shallow v shaped frame, like a long ladder, bicycle type wheels at the apex. Handle at one end like an old pram handle for pushing to the water then lift to dip the other end into the pond. The pond end would have a cradle with slings ( to accommodate different size boats) on a swivel, to keep the model level to the water. Once in the water sail boat off – back into the sling to retrieve.

As you have surmised, I'm not an engineer, but this arrangement should be easily broken down into easily transported sections, even the wheels could be detachable from the axle portion making the whole like a flat pack.

With apologies for the long windedness.

Chris

[Ralph PinchParticipant @ralphpinch41762]

Hi Paul,

Think ambulance stretcher………….with a big Hiab.

[mike farrellParticipant @mikefarrell21522]

Hi Paul .Thinking are you going to use a trailer attached to your motor or are you going to build from scratch?

If you are not using a trailer then building a trailer with a jockey wheel may be considered with a battery operated hoist .I am sure there is plenty of 12 volt units which you could utilise .There was a TV programme which was Monster wars I think which may be a source of ideas .Will watch with anticipation Michael

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi All

The design continues.

Side view.

[mike farrellParticipant @mikefarrell21522]

Hi Paul, Had a look on Ebay and found an interesting piece of kit ,its in 12 Volt Hoist .Its called ""Techmobility 12 volt 4 way boot hoist .

It is used to lift weavey items in and out of vechile boots .Might be of useMichael

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

Just spotted this on Facebook…..

**LINK**

Good enough for most sailers?

Bob

[Ralph PinchParticipant @ralphpinch41762]

KISS

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Michael

Thank you for the hoist information and what you have found is not so far away from my thinking.

Hello Bob

That trolley is superbly designed and ideal for the fit and able-bodied but not really what I am intending to build.

I have a challenge for you to think about…….Come up with an idea for a fully motorised transport / launch and recovery trolley that would transport Lady Joyce at Haydock this year from your car in its parking space to the sailing pond, launch and then recover the boat, all of this whilst you are sat in a wheelchair and only using one hand.

The trolley and boat must fit in your estate car.

Hello Ralph

I agree that your idea is simple, its also easy to construct and basic enough in operation to allow the most ham fisted numpty to use it.

Your idea is a nice counterbalanced system where the counterbalance is the aforesaid numpty, I don't have the luxury of numpty and asking a random passer-by if they would be the numpty might get me pushed into the lake so my trolley has to be a little more complicated.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Right then, Paul

Duckie has had an email from the Colwyn Bay club

They are asking for a recommendation for a stand alone mini crane, that can be mounted on the landing stage to load and unload models

Small world….eh?

Our committee are again thinking along the same lines…….Having scrapped Duckies crane base he fitted on the landing stage last year

Health and Safety has reared it's ugly head again and for insurance purposes, we have to buy a commercially made machine

This may have a knock on effect regarding your latest project……..lol

All good fun, eh?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Health & safety is very proper but you don't always have to use a commercially made machine.

Providing the design is done by an approved engineer and the lifting operation methodology written by a recognised appointed person for lifting operations then everything is legally correct.

Now if I only knew of an engineer who has been trained in lifting equipment.

Paul

I guess it wont effect my latest project

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Paul (any anyonelse) Would there be any merit using something commercially available as the trolley, and I am thinking more along the lines of baby buggy rather than garden trolley, and then having the lifting gear on this mobile base??

Very often it is cheaper to buy something ready made like this rather than purchase all the bits…wheels, axles and so on. Just a thought as have been round me MUMs and there was one of those catalogue sort of things (given away in the Mail paper) for persons of a certain age containing items to assist the senior person…and there were a number of wheeled items in there, from frames to chairs…all light and folding to fit in cars…???

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Ashley

I have looked at all sorts of different commercially available buggies, trolleys and adapted equipment in the hope that something might be suitable, I even looked at electric golf carts but the work involved in re-engineering them into a motorised boat trolley was so drastic that it ended up being easier to start from scratch.

Paul

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

One of the optional extras for the trolley is an elevating work area.

Perhaps a few less lifting sections but you get the idea.

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 26/06/2015 20:36:12

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Me mam had a clothes horse just like that!

(I'll get me coat, shall I?)

DM

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

Oddly enough a clothes horse is where the inventor of the scissor lift got the idea from.

Just wait until you see the trollies crane attachment.

Paul

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Just wait until you see the trollies crane attachment.

I'm all agog; my horn is fully swoggled; my nab has been totally danged, and my gob is well-and-truly smacked in anticipation, so please don't string it out for 175 pages before we see the result. I do have a finite attention span.

DM

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

All this may well make the trolley so heavy that you will need an engine hoist available just to get it in the car….

Ashley

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Or a ramp?

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