Superglue

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Some time ago, I purchased a bottle of Gorilla Glue that claimed it was the “strongest glue every produced.”     Although I found this to be true, it’s sticking powers were amazing, it was useless for my type of model (miniatures) because it frothed up whilst drying and produced unsightly blobs of hard foam.

This morning, I purchased a pack of Gorilla Superglue.    The internet write-up said that it does not foam when drying.   I found this to be true.    Whilst maintaining an incredibly strong bond, there is no foaming or expansion at all as far as I can see.   I have a feeling that Gorilla Superglue will take over from contact adhesives for my miniatures from now on.

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

bob………..i am allergic to the vapours given off by normal superglues[ cyano acrilate]……..is this a true cyano glue or just a super strong glue, and what sort of vapours does it give off,

cheers, neil.

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

It is cyanoacrylate, but it doesn’t appear particularly strong in odour.   I always have a powerful, but almost silent suction fan (normally used for removing soldering fumes) on my desk, so it sucks and fumes away from me.     I only use tiny spots anyway, so fumes not a problem.

Bob  

Edited By Bob Wilson on 10/12/2010 20:45:26

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

cheers bob………i think i’ll try some……..was looking at it in my local hardware store the other day.

neil.

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I am also allergic to the non odourless types opf superglue – a minimum of three days’sacute hayfever symptoms – not nice!

 

For many purposes I find that Deluxe materials Super Phatic is a good substitute. Most of the benefits of superglue and water cleanup.

 

Colin

 

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Another thing that is good about Gorilla is that it came in a two-pack.   Two tubes 3g each, so instead of losing half of it with a bunged up spout, you get a second chance.    Anyway, it does claim an anti-clog nozzle, not that that seems to count for much in other superglues, but we will see.

 

After it gets light, I will post a picture of my fume-sucker.    It is very effective.

 

Bob

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

I got this mainly to remove fumes whilst soldering.   That is what it was designed for.    I find it works just as well for glue fumes.    It has a powerful fan in it and the fumes are sucked through a filter on the front.   After a few weeks, the filter becomes greyish in colour.   It should then be unclipped, washed out and put back.   It is calle d “Smoke Absorber!”

Bob

[Robin LeeParticipant @robinlee31938]

Hi Bob,

I am interested in this glue.How does it perform gluing very small diameter wire – 0.1mm tinned copper wire for instance? You have guessed it I am still struggling with my rigging!

Robin

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Hi Robin,

I only got it yesterday, but it seems to be a great improvement on using Bond Loc.    When it comes out of the tube, it has the consistency and look of honey.   Absolutely no stringing at all.   It takes about 15 seconds to dry.   On the initial tests I made, it glues 0.1mm wire very well.      The only fault I could find with the original Gorlla glue was that it foamed and expanded, making it no good at all for our sort of thing.    The new Gorilla Sueprglue does not foam at all and I will certainly be putting it to use in the hope that I can stop using Bond Loc.     My main dislike about Bod Loc was the toxic fumes and admitedly, it did string a bit as well.    By using such tiny quanities of Gorilla, I am not aware of any fumes at all.

 

On their FAQs, if you look at The Difference Between Gorilla Glue and Gorilla Superglue, they state that it does not foam.    This is true and therefore makes it idea.    It is really the strongest glue I have ever come across!

 

Here is a link to their advert:

 

http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues/superglue/index.aspx 

 

Bob

  

Edited By Bob Wilson on 11/12/2010 12:32:30

[Robin LeeParticipant @robinlee31938]

Thanks Bob, I will give it a go. I have found Amazon 2x3grm for £4.10 post free .

Robin

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

That is very good.   I paid £4.99 from a local store!

 Bob

[Robin LeeParticipant @robinlee31938]

Placed my order with Amazon – thanks for the suggestion.

Robin

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

Yesterday, I drilled a hole in a piece of wood and stuck a cocktail stick in it.    I glued a fine piece of wire to the top of the stick with gorilla Superglue.    This morning, I pulled the wire sidways and the stick bent over and broke, but the wire did not come off.   The wire was just glued on with a single spot, it was not wrapped round or anything!

 

I also took two strips of plasticard, 1/4 inch wide and glued them together with 1/2 inch overlap.   I was unable to break the joint this morning!

 

Bob

[Robin LeeParticipant @robinlee31938]

That is impressive Bob. The wire, did you do any preparation at all? I know you use enamelled copper wire.

Robin

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

The wire was fine tinned copper.      I was quite surprised when the stick broke before the joint parted.

I hadn’t pepared the wire in any way, just dipped the end in the glue and propped it up against the vertical stick.

Bob

[Robin LeeParticipant @robinlee31938]

Cheers Bob

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

that looks an interesting bit of kit, bob..where do you buy those from.

 

colin..   .For many purposes I find that Deluxe materials Super Phatic   

 

 

could you tell me a little more about this stuff please….cheers,

 

neil.

[Bob WilsonParticipant @bobwilson59101]

It is a:

aoyue smoke absorber

Not horribly expensive (less than £30) but very effective.    For many years, I wasn’t allergic to anything, but as time goes on, fumes and glue have an annoying effect on me.  

Just stick it in Google and you will come up with loads of them.

Bob 

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

thanks bob…..much appreciated. neil.

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Neil,

 

You will find all the info here: http://www.deluxematerials.com/

 

Super Phatic is  like a thin PVA Aliphatic type glue but it sets very quickly and is waterproof. It can also be used for other materials, usually when one surface is porous.

 

Colin

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

thanks for that colin………i’ll order some of that.

cheers, neil.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

woooahhh!!!!     just had a look at the site………i’m like a kid in a sweet shop, sad or what.

cheers.

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Yes, there’s some very interesting products there plus a guide on what sticks what. I visited their premises a couple of years back to do a trader report for Model Boats – fascinating.

 

Colin

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

bought some of the gorilla glue as a stop gap yesterday……….boy, what super stuff, lol………….no how do i get it off my chair seat, heeellllllpppp. ! lol

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