Prototype build of ELLIE

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Bob
There's not much more to see than in the earlier photos, and for the time being it will be covered in masking while I prepare and paint the hull. Not a pretty sight!
Dave M

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Will you be having an orange hull Dave?

Colin

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Posted by Colin Bishop, Website Editor on 13/10/2013 10:32:09:

Will you be having an orange hull Dave?

Colin

Admiral
I don't believe in painting boats to look like fruit…………………
I'm of the "typical man" school of decorating i.e. the only three colours are gloss white, matt white and magnolia. The hull will be gloss white while I've made a slight concession and will paint the cabin sides and front screens sky blue (Halfords' Ford Olympic Blue to be exact). Hull below W/L will be gloss red and the ply deck is stained light teak with lots of satin varnish. Red, white and blue – simples.
Dave M

[LARRY WHETTONParticipant @larrywhetton68737]

Hi Bob/ Paul,

Paint job looking good , nice to see you have used cream ,

it highlites the mahogney wood wood work ,

I surgested cream back in the thread ,

so pleased you came up the combo, but the jury is out on the green,

Paul how is the grey version coming on..?….

cheers Larry….

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Larry

Its coming along just fine

I'm now trying to squeeze three motors into the design so that the MTB can be a triple, need to have a chat to an electronics wizz about differential speed control.

The observant will see that the design has changed to something easier to build but can anyone recognise what the new type is?

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 13/10/2013 12:55:57

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Paul
ELCO 80 footer (PT109)? Check your E-mail for electrickery.
DM

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

Spot on with the ELCO.

The Graupner 500E sound just the ticket and your electrikery drawing is exactly what I wanted, now all I have to do is make sure it all fits in.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

I think the green stern is the best option?

Bob

[Peter FitnessParticipant @peterfitness34857]

I agree, Bob.

Peter.

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

Although I still prefer a varnished transom I have to admit that your model does look nice. Are you doing below the waterline in red?

Have the motor and bits arrived yet?

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I will be painting the bottom in traditional red…..As soon as the prop shaft is installed

Just tinkering at the moment

Tried making window frames from 00 rail…….Not bad, but without a special formed bending arbour, it's not easy and we need about twenty of them

It's a tricky one

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Paul

I will be painting the bottom in traditional red…..As soon as the prop shaft is installed

Just tinkering at the moment

Tried making window frames from 00 rail…….Not bad, but without a special formed bending arbour, it's not easy and we need about twenty of them

It's a tricky one

Bob

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

Bob,

I don't think boats of this vintage would have had metal window frames-see the link I posted before and look for Windboat. Non of the Martham boats have them either and it will save you a lot of heartache. But I sense you're busting to make window frames!

You surprised us with that green but it looks good, especially with the ivory.

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Ian

Thanks for that encouraging news!

How do I find your post now? We've got 72 pages to go through!

How did they keep the glass in?

Bob

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

I think this is it- I looked through my posts.

**LINK**

 

Scroll down for Windboat

Edited By Ian Gardner on 17/10/2013 19:46:27

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Had another look at the propshaft hole

Solved the wandering hole problem by removing the top half of the keel, now got a clear path for the propshaft

Still waiting for the actual propshaft and stuff at the moment

It should arrive tomorrow

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

A support solution for your cut keel is by making two 1.5mm sides for the keel and forming a shell around the existing.

I appreciate that you will have already thought of this but I the drawing will help other people understand.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Thank you, Paul

That is a useful sketch

Are you catering for the single propshaft version on the keel drawing?

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Ian

It looks as if the glass has just been fitted behind the wooden cabin sides, with no vestige of a frame at all. Would that be correct?

Dave

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

The drawings will show options for 1, 2 or 3 motors / shafts as part of the 3 different levels of build complexity.

Paul

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

Hi Dave,

To try and answer your question- I have hired older yachts in the Broads and the glass tends to be mounted in wooden frames inside the timber coach house sides- and can slide- if memory serves me. One very rarely gets breaking waves in the Broads, if ever, although I have experienced some very fierce winds! Metal frames seemed to be installed on wooden boats from the sixties and , of course, GRP boats.

Someone else might have more accurate information- I've never hired a motor cruiser for instance- just going from photos and personal experience of seeing these boats in Norfolk.

Looking forward to more photos of the 'fast fisher'.

Ian

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Example of a 'frameless' windows

[Ian GardnerParticipant @iangardner62867]

There you go!

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

A thousand apologies for this humble picture!

My normal PC has got a problem and I`m on my new PC which has been set up properly!

In fact, I`ve forgotten what to do now, as I only need to do this every five years!

Anyway, the prop stuff has arrived and have got it roughly positioned for Paul`s comments

The picture is in black and white because the colour version is way out, man!

Bob

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing office

The keel at 6mm wide is too narrow…….IMHO

I recco 8mm…………which is the same size as the propshaft recieved

The 1.5mm side cheeks you reccommend, would then be just right

What about deepening the keel to protect the 45mm prop?

It would also be better for the rudder stem

Bob, floggin' away in the workshop

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