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  • #76057
    Rumration
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      @rumration

      Thanks DM,

      I’ve got pollyfiller to hand, so that will suffice for now, rather than buy another pot.

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      #76058
      Dave Milbourn
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        @davemilbourn48782

        As long as it's the ready-mixed "fine surface" stuff in a tub and not the standard Polyfilla!

        DM

        #76166
        Rumration
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          @rumration

          Well here is the latest. I’ve had a couple of difficulties, only to be expected of course. Firstly I find it quite hard to get nice symmetrical curves in the window corners. The way I tried was to drill a hole in each corner then scroll saw into each of the holes. It’s ok but difficult not to see at least one corner where the hole meets the saw line. It took me a long time to get a result that is at least satisfactory. Perhaps there is a better/easier method.

          Secondly I found a descrepancy of some part sizes from plan sheet No. 1, which I used as templates to cut the items from, and sheet No. 2, the assembly drawing. This is especially so for the cabin sides, by several mm. It may be just the drawing copies I have, but they are originals from sarik. Not all parts are affected, so you can imagine where the problem manifests itself, when you come to assembly.

          Anyway once I realised what was going on, I could resize as necessary to get a correct fit. Of course this has slowed me down somewhat. Otherwise I’m making progress and enjoying the build. Photos to follow when I’m happy everything is ok so far, and the glue has dried.

          #76168
          Dave Milbourn
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            @davemilbourn48782

            I'm not sure if this is the reason for your problem, but the parts drawing for the cabin sides is the correct length. Drawn on the plan in side elevation they appear shorter because they bend quite markedly throughout their length – 'straightened out' flat for cutting they are longer. If you shorten them to match the plan drawing then you may well find they aren't long enough when it comes to fitting the rear coaming and/or front window panel. The bottom edge is also not exactly straight to allow for the inward slope in section and also that pronounced curve in side elevation.

            DM

            #76170
            Rumration
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              @rumration

              Ah yes that would explain it. Obvious when you know the answers as always. I haven’t cut them short, so no problem there. Just lineing everything up was difficult. Thanks foe the explanation Dave.

              #76171
              Colin Bishop
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                @colinbishop34627

                Interpreting drawings can be a bit of a lost art these days but, as with all things, practice makes perfect! There is only one way to learn really and that is to do it.

                Generally speaking, drawings produced by well established experts such as Dave are more likely to be accurate than not although errors can sometimes creep in. So if something doesn't seem to fit then that is the time to sit back and have a little think to see if you can identify where the discrepancy is occurring. Curved structures on the plan view are a frequent cause of people being caught out as there is a tendency to look at the plan and elevation separately and not mentally combine them in a 3D view!

                Schools used to teach this sort of thing once when technical drawing was still on the curriculum. I was never much good at it myself but I did absorb the basic principles.

                I think we have all been here at some stage.

                Colin

                #76191
                Rumration
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                  @rumration

                  Dave, I need some help please! I can’t for the life of me work out how to hold the stern ends of the sides in to the coamings. In image 23 of the magazine article yours seem to in place without clamps or pins. So what is holding them there?

                  Otherwise all going well.

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                  #76192
                  Dave Milbourn
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                    @davemilbourn48782

                    I pre-curved them in the steam from a kettle so there is actually nothing holding them except their shape. It's easy enough to push a couple of pins vertically down into the deck immediately alongside them to hold them close in to the coaming. There's little tension in thin ply which is only bent a wee bit – it's just that I'm fussy like that! They will need pinning while you add the 3mm ply parts which form the back of the coaming and the seat (Pics 35 & 36).

                    Dave M

                    #76236
                    Rumration
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                      @rumration

                      Not sure about the cockpit stern, what attaches to what at the moment, so I have planked the cabin roof. Took me a couple sessions to get this far.

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                      #76356
                      Rumration
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                        @rumration

                        Sure you’re all wondering what progress I’ve made! Well it will be few weeks as I got fed up with the awful weather so I bought an open ended ticket to Perth, WA. Arrived Friday. So I’m going to warm up here for a few weeks.

                        I’ll be back.

                        #76370
                        Chris Fellows
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                          @chrisfellows72943

                          Enjoy your stay Glyn.

                          I dropped off some friends at the airport yesterday for their flight to Brisbane via Dubai. They are there for a month, 30 degrees at the moment.

                          I've only been making slow progress on the River Cruiser, though at least I'm making some. Funnily enough one of the problem areas I've had is with that small triangular piece at the bow! Nothing a spot of sanding won't sort.

                          Chris

                          Edited By Chris Fellows on 19/03/2018 14:44:29

                          #76372
                          Dave Milbourn
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                            @davemilbourn48782

                            Chris

                            That little piece is a swine. You need to think in 3D then all will become clear.

                            DM

                            #76373
                            Paul T
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                              @pault84577

                              Dave

                              It might be helpful for Chris if you could show a progress photo of the area in question?

                              Paul

                              "Thinking in 3D" I wish that I had thought of that excuse when designing the Ellie range as it would have saved loads of drawing time.

                               wink

                               

                              Edited By Paul T on 19/03/2018 16:21:28

                              #76374
                              Dave Milbourn
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                                @davemilbourn48782

                                Sorry, Paul, but I don't have one. I shall be building two more models in due course so I'll take a photo if I remember….but that will probably be too late for Chris.
                                Ref your remark about Ellie, you really ought to know better than to stick out your chin that far. Don't forget that I built one from your drawings. It's as well I'm in a good mood.

                                DM

                                #76376
                                Paul T
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                                  @pault84577

                                  Dave

                                  I remember ………and you made a lovely job of it.

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                                  #76392
                                  Chris Fellows
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                                    @chrisfellows72943

                                    Thanks Dave & Paul

                                    It was ironic that the very thing I pointed out to Glyn i.e. that his stringers were too far in front of the bow then happened to me! Mainly because when working out the size of the triangular piece I forgot that when you cut timber at an angle, rather than 90 degrees, that even with small section timber the dimension is considerably longer.

                                    As said, not a big problem (that's the good thing about working in timber) as I will sand it to line. Just got to glue on the remaining outer stringer and I will be ready to sand the keel and stringers to profile.

                                    Chris

                                    #76398
                                    Rumration
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                                      @rumration

                                      Indeed you did Chris.

                                      But I have some logic there, rightly or wrongly, I like to have to much, rather than not enough (of everything!) Learnt from all modelling projects in the past. It’s much easier to remove excess, than to make up a shortage with glued on wood, filler etc.

                                      As you say wasn’t a big deal. Hope you are in the pink. Lots of boats here. Not seen any model ones, or model shops as yet.

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