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    Joel Ward
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      @joelward41318

      Hi newbie here currently building a hood battle ship model in wood.

      Im wanting to make it rc are there any kits out there (motor servos baterry packs and controllers)?

      Thanks in advance

      Joel

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      Joel Ward
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        @joelward41318

        Hood battle ship

        #81784
        ashley needham
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          @ashleyneedham69188

          Hi Joel, and welcome to the forum.

          There are no kits as such, due to the variety of styles and sizes of boat.

          What you need to do it tell us the size of it and how big the scale props are likely to be.

          Just as a taster, my Nelson, pictured, is 44 inches long, has two low power 540 motors and twin 30mm props. BUT my HMS Manchester type42 destroyer at 57 inches uses two 555 motors and 40mm 5-blade props.

          Ashley

          HMS Nelson 7

          #81788
          Charles Oates
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            @charlesoates31738

            Everything Ashley says, plus whether you want to use 1,2,or 4 motors. For the radio control, broadly choose whether you want simple, I.e rudder and motor control or if you want to have extra controls for gadgets in the boat.

            To give you some idea, a basic set costs less than 30 quid, foir transmitter and receiver, and will allow steering and speed control via at least one ESC, ( electronic speed controller) ( 25 to 30 quid each for decent ones) the same set would allow you to have basic gun movement later with an extra servo. You'll need a servo for steering, about a tenner is a common price.

            The permutations are endless, but that's a starting point.

            I think everyone would recommend that you plan the motor and running gear very early in the build.

            Chas

            #81792
            ashley needham
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              @ashleyneedham69188

              Also…decide if you are making a pukka scale ship above and below the waterline. The Hood had 4 props with at least 2 exposed shafts and therefore skegs would be needed.

              This ramps up the cost considerably. A non scale setup of two props would be adequate otherwise, or even just one depending on model size. Extra also would be the space required inside for 4 lots of motors and couplings. One esc of suitable size would happily control 4 small motors if you did not want to have independent prop control either side. A non scale large rudder is likely going to be needed or inadequate control will result.

              Ashley

              #81795
              Ray Wood 3
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                @raywood3

                Hi Joel,

                How long is Hood going to be ? Do you have a drawing ?

                Regards Ray

                #81900
                Joel Ward
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                  @joelward41318

                  Hi thanks for the reply . The ship will be 52 inches long and im wanting 2 use 4 working propeller Joel

                  #81901
                  Ray Wood 3
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                    @raywood3

                    Hi Joel,

                    I think you only need 380 – 400 size brushed motors, this is my 48" HMS Diamond with 2 400 size motors with 30mm props and really moves swiftly as a 1/96th scale destroyer should 😀

                    Regards Rayeaster 2015 219.jpg

                    Edited By Ray Wood 2 on 15/04/2019 20:14:23

                    #81903
                    ashley needham
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                      @ashleyneedham69188

                      Joel. 385 motors are also a popular choice at this size of vessel with 4 small props, and have the advantage of a wider voltage range and good torque.

                      they are not as revvy as a 400, and would not have suited Rays destroyer, but you have 4 of them and no need for as much speed.

                      Ashley

                      Edited By ashley needham on 16/04/2019 09:20:40

                      #81904
                      Dave Milbourn
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                        @davemilbourn48782

                        Here's one suggestion. Scroll down the list and click on "Graupner HMS Hood – John Tew". **LINK**

                        I would suggest using the P94 dual ESC/mixer, which automatically reduces the speed of the two motors on the inside of a turn to assist turning. Its Mode 4 slows the two motors on the inside of the turn to just stop on full rudder command, without reversing them. You don't need to use twin battery packs; one decent capacity one will suffice – e.g. 4600 – 5000 maH – which will eliminate the need for the P103. I would add that Ashley's suggestion of using 385 motors seems an excellent one.

                        Dave M

                        #81905
                        John W E
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                          @johnwe

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                          Edited By John W E on 16/04/2019 18:49:24

                          #81906
                          John W E
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                            @johnwe

                            copy of dscf0497 (medium).jpghi ya there, are you building HMS Hood from the old nexus plans – now Taplett – that's about 52 – 53 inches long. If I remember rightly, she is built bread and butter construction. If you are, is there no suggestion as to what size motors you should use? What also has to be taken into account are the materials you are building with, if you are building bread and butter.

                            I have built several 4 shaft models, but, slightly larger than what you are contemplating – I built HMS Exeter and HMS Ajax – both are 4 shafts. They are 72 inches long and have 4 x 500 motors in them. One has a mixer combined speed controller in it, where the other one I opted for what is called tank steering – this is where one stick controls 2 motors on the port side and the opposite stick controls the other 2 motors on the starboard side.

                            This can give quite spectacular turning abilities – what you must also bear in mind is you will need to play around with which way the props turn. If I remember rightly, the Ajax turns better with the props turning inboard (in other words as you are looking from the stern of the model – the props turn anti-clockwise – throwing a wash onto the rudder.

                            Just some food for thought.

                            Edited By John W E on 16/04/2019 18:55:40

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