Vintage Gentleman’s Cruiser

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

I might try the stretched fibre glass roving again. I just stretch it over the frames like tissue and then dump a coat of resin on it. It needs some P38 (other fillers are available ) to get a good finish but is very strong and quick to do.

Call me lazy if you want but my LORRAINE is starting to look like a proper model. ( pics available to highest bidder )

Mike

Edited By lnvisibleman on 13/07/2014 00:00:29

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Paul

To save me searching over hill and dale, here, there and everywhere, left right and centre…………

Are the keel and formers 6 mm ply?

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi Bob

Yes they are 6mm but you don't have to search over hill and dale for the information as you have already printed it off in the notes section of drawing 01

Paul

Edited By Paul T on 13/07/2014 10:53:09

[IAN_IParticipant @ian_i]

Hi Paul and Bob…

Just been catching up on your latest build looking great and will be a good addition to the Model Boat mag when you have finished.

Best regards,

Ian

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to Drawing Office

So that's where it is?……Would not have found it in a month of Sunday's!

Why not have a page of notes on page one for anything relevant?

I'm going to use quality birch ply this time as opposed to the cheap stuff, as a bit of weight won't be much of a problem?

More later

Bob

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Notes are put there to be read for your benefit, Bob. Writing them in a box on the same page as, and directly alongside, the relevant parts with the heading "Notes" is pretty much the most which ought to be necessary. It would be irksome to have to place little 'sub-notes' all over the drawings saying "please read the main notes".
In any case, a separate page of notes is just as likely to be ignored by those who are of that inclination – if not even more likely. I still believe there are folk out there who regard the instructions for anything as just an expensive part of the packaging.

DM

Edited By Dave Milbourn on 13/07/2014 11:27:29

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hello Ian

Thanks for the kind words but I'm sorry to say that the build is not likely to appear in the magazine as, quite understandably, its doubtful that the management would want to re-print something that has already been covered here on the website.

Bob

In future projects I will write the notes in bold red so that you cant miss them.

As for using decent birch ply I wouldn't expect anything else from you.

Paul

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

I was going to comment on the Bob issue of no notes but am stumped as what to say exactly…

Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Getting back to the build

The installation of the frames continues.

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

And is now complete

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

That`s really nice, Paul

My only critique…..Centre lines are a long dash followed by a dot

Bob

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Bob

I thought a long dash followed by a dot was morse code

Paul

and its criticism not critique

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

A long dash followed by a dot is what I tend to do six or seven times a night, and it's "it's" not "its" in this context.

I've always used long dash followed by short dash for centre lines, but what the heck do I know? As long as it's not a solid line then only a pedant would give a damn…………………. and there are none of those on this forum, surely?

DM

[Gareth JonesParticipant @garethjones79649]

BS308, which was the defining standard in my drawing days, and probably Bob's, says a centreline must be illustrated by a chain thin line, i.e. alternate long dashes and short dashes.

BS308 has now been superceded by BS8888 but the recommended symbology for centrelines is the same.

What's a pedant got to do with it, I thought it was something you wore round your neck.

Gareth

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Thanks for that, Gareth. I went hunting for BS308 on the web but I only found sites that wanted to sell me BS ISO 128-20 for about a hundred dollars. It's not worth that much just to prove a point.
A pedant is someone who would gleefully point out that there should have been a question mark in your last sentence instead of a comma, which would have made the subsequent words [from "I thought"] into a new sentence – but there are no pedants on this forum, are there?
What you wear round your neck is called a mortgage.

Dave M

Edited By Dave Milbourn on 15/07/2014 23:28:01

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

pedant

noun: pedant; plural noun: pedants

1. a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

synonyms: dogmatist, purist, literalist, formalist, doctrinaire

Now discuss socratic irony

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Why soytainly, my good man! Waddya wanna know, Toots?

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Dave

Socratic irony

What was Socrates's irritating habit and how can it be applied to our little world?

Produce an indecisive report in fewer than vier mots.

Paul

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Hmm…Mortgage…I seem to have heard of that, a long time ago.

Are we off-thread a bit here??

Ashley

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Despite what you might have read in Wikipedia or other learned reference works, Socrates' most irritating habit was breaking wind in company and promptly blaming it on the nearest living creature, irrespective of whether or not that creature was culpable or even would have been capable of such an explosion. Thus dogs were wisely discouraged from scavenging at table whenever the great man was dining; canaries' cages were covered; cat-flaps were temporarily sealed and even mouse-holes were bunged up with wax.
This didn't deter the grand philosopher from giving vent to some of the most stupendously loud and gaseous trouser-coughs ever recorded (only in writing, fortunately). This habit was the eventual cause of his arrest, trial and sentencing to commit suicide by drinking hemlock. Ironically (and that's where that word finally comes in) hemlock – in small measures – is perhaps the planet's finest cure for flatulence.

In slightly more than vier mots, then, if you believed even a word of this then more fool you.

Now – who's building one of these here cruisers and how's it going?

Edited By Dave Milbourn on 16/07/2014 19:08:06

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

In answer to Dave M's plea (and others) for this thread to get on with the building.

The workshop has been tidying up and dusting all day and have just requested the drawings (and started asking questions) so it looks as though the chief engineer is gearing up to start the project.

I do know that a purchase order for a pile of timber and 4 outrageous motors has been approved so everyone in the design office is now on standby for the onslaught of technical questions.

How the workshop is going to get the model ready in time for Haydock is a complete mystery but I have heard that the tea lady has been put on double time.

The design office

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Shop floor to new Office block

Several readers, including the Invisibleman, will be pleased to read that a Vintage Gentleman's Cruiser is now on the stocks and is in production

WIP pictures to follow

Following the Ellie test runs with the Abell Twin drive, last week where the motor sound was most unusual, Lady Jane will be fitted with two such sets of Twin Drives…..Just for the hell of it!

Once more we have something of the wait and see syndrome, to look forward to?

Bob….Back in the old routine

[lnvisiblemanParticipant @lnvisibleman]

Great ! Now I can think about building mine. It's so much better when an expert makes the mistakes before me..

Mike ( I feel sure that there must be more drawings to come )

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Mike

I am glad that you are pleased but as we don't have any experts you will have to make do with us.

At the moment there are 22 drawings detailing everything from building board to frame construction and superstructure. The drawings don't include the skins as the making of skin templates and the cutting out is left up to the individual. The skins will only be detailed if I carry on with the design in order to produce a kit and this would depend upon how the design is received.

Paul

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Hello Mike

Have you only got some of the drawings?

Bob

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