Todays Boating

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

The reason for poor performance became clear yesterday after I got the scales out.

Original 540 sized brushless motor 158gm, speed 600. 230gm(!). New 28mm outrunner …49gm !

Serious weight loss of 100gm (bag of rhubarb and custard sweets) not to be sniffed at.

Unusually I Posted on a defence forum the other day, got a smart arse one-liner reply from someone and was reminded why I don’t post on there much. The amount of “your wrong” “no your wrong” “no your wrong” posts is disparaging and if these people can’t muster a reasoned reply or put their point of view across properly they really shouldn’t post, but hey ho.

Ashley

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

But you were sitting on defence of course Ashley…

Colin

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Ashley, what is a defense forum?

I have this picture of members discussing the best way to remove old garden fencing but that's just my strange imagination!

Smart arsed one liners are the backbone of so many forums nowadays and seem to be more about trying to make the poster look clever than anything else. The anonimity of the internet creates a perfect environment for such insecure people to try to inflate their egos.

I used to buy a bag of Rhubarb and Custard to suck on my paper round! Or maybe Pear Drops or sometimes good old Humbugs.

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Navy lookout and UK defence journal are the ones I follow. Some good stuff on there (filtering the comments suitably).

Sent a few of you snaps of the shiny one. Unfortunately the water surface not great but I can see the sorts of photos that would look good. Anyone who wants pics please PM me.

A River B2 OPV with the new western approach camouflage job would make a nice model.

Ashley

[Richard Barnett 1Participant @richardbarnett1]

Hi all,

Not posted for a while been busy building another 'Brown boat' as Ashley calls them. (cheeky sod!) My latest is roughly 1/35 scale Santa Maria . The design, although never documented, was taken from a book by Bjorn Landstrom called The Ship which is a best guess as to what it actually looked like.

The model sails surprisingly well but not into wind which I didn't think it would. There's a discreet motor fitted to help move matters along when needed.

Will post some pictures soon but it's on You Tube under 'Santa Maria at Bushy park' if you feel the need.

Ricky ye Pirate.

[Richard Barnett 1Participant @richardbarnett1]

hiHi chaps

Edited By Colin Bishop on 11/09/2021 18:16:54

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Lovely job, can you tell us a little more about it Richard?

Edited By Colin Bishop on 11/09/2021 18:18:16

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

I can tell you it is lacking a nice set of pirates, Richard. Ones kindly craftily positioned by Trevor we’re bluntly refused by Richard for some reason.

Cycled to pond yesterday. Boating area by jetty clear-ish but weed prevalent over the rest.the log seems to be even nearer. One day…

the other day I talked to some volunteers and they said there were plans to fix the ponds and water flow, but don’t hold your breath.

Shaping up to be sunny so taking the shiny one and camera.

Ashley

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Ashley

Have you got room at home to accommodate a largish paddling pool?

That would be a great testing feature

They are about £50 from Amazon

Bob

[Richard BarnettParticipant @richardbarnett67129]

Richard,

I built the hull plank on frame using thick cardboard to plank it with which was then fibreglassed inside and out using tight weave glass cloth to seal it. P38 car body filler was then skimmed over the outer hull and sanded down.

Once the waterline has been determined ( bath test with a shed full of lead blocks) the hull was planked from the waterline up with balsa which was stained and then sealed with varnish. This method I’ve used for many of my boats and produces a light spacious stiff hull, plus cardboard is a third the price of wood, bends easy and soaks up fibreglass resin like a sponge which goes off like concrete!

The plan for it was taken off a small drawing in the book which I expanded at a scale of 1mm to 1cm.

The only things not scratch built were the anchors, ships boat and some ex pirate figures. The scale is approx 1/38 ish

Hope this was helpful,

Ricky ye pirate 🏴‍☠️

[Trevor HollowayParticipant @trevorholloway99134]

Just the right scale for Playmobil pirates !

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Ashley, Here's one for you, how about a model of the Flying Dutchman with the unbelievable detailing of the original? Have it emerging from the depths of the pond!

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Richard. Do you know (other than getting it to sink and raise), the detailing might be easier than you think.

Yes theres loads of “stuff” on the hull, but it’s covered in concretions, easily simulated with artex and glue/sand/whatever, and the quality of fittings…well, there doesn’t have to be any quality, just quantity.

An overall spray and some nifty brush/dry brush work and you are there!

It ALMOST looks like an interesting project…….

Sunday boating. Good. Got more nice pics of the shiny one, even at full throttle (a bit of a non-event unfortunately) and again pictures revealing more detail of its full throttle behaviour than can be seen “live”.

Trevors bat+boat with its jet drive still needing more work with some silicone sealant on the outside, although the inside was commendably dry. Performance on half throttle is good, but doesn’t seem to get much better on full throttle. Wattmeter says almost 40A current, and we were wondering if the 4735Kv On 3s is too many revs for the unit (despite that’s what it is sold as) and despite the new cut-to-fit twin blade racing prop having been fitted. We have a feeling that performance with this motor on 7.2v/2s will likely be more than adequate.

Still waiting 2200Kv motor for Stingray, similar jet unit…will be interesting to see the difference. Obviously the Stingray is heavier and less streamlined but we can do current measurements and assess the whoosh out the back.

The reversing bucket worked to the extent that is does actually reverse the boat, albeit at a snails pace, but handy nevertheless for getting out the bank or assisting a quick stop.

Ashley

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Ashley while I agree that a liberal coating of some form of filler would give a presentable stand off finish I think a lot of people are not aware of just what depth of detail there was incorporated into this structure. You really could walk around it and study every little nook and cranny and discover figures and objects set into the surfaces.

Probably not a model for the feint hearted but incredibly interesting from a modelling perspective.

Just a point of interest for everyone.  The base of the ship was a large steel tank.  This could be pumped out to enable the ship to float and be towed to whatever location was required.  The tank was then filled with water to allow the ship to sink to a point where it would sit on the bottom in shallow water.

Edited By Richard Simpson on 13/09/2021 10:46:36

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

what was/is the story behind the fable of the Flying Dutchmam, apart from what i was told as a young boy that it sailed the ocean as a ghost ship.

[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Supposedly a Van Der Decken who could not round the Cape – Cape of Storms or Cape Horn – (not sure which one) – presumably the Cape of Storms as the Dutch East Indiamen regularly did so . He was supposed to have cursed The Lord and because of it was then doomed to sail around the Cape forever .

Seem to remember reading somewhere a young English King to be sighted the Dutchman once in a Storm……….

 

Edited By redpmg on 13/09/2021 17:31:02

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Preview. Disco boat. The " Bushy P Belle"  (like the edward e lee, or similar)   YEE Haaaa!

Altogether…."in the nay-veeee….. da da da da dadadaaa"

Coming to a river near you, or indeed, pond. Sounds, lights, smoke …only recreational use, officer. yes really

Ashley

Sorry.

 

Edited By ashley needham on 13/09/2021 18:02:00

Edited By ashley needham on 13/09/2021 18:04:36

[Richard Barnett 1Participant @richardbarnett1]

Ashley packed a lot into the Disco boat and it certainly has gone down well with the public along with us all popping some disco moves on the jetty!

Upstaged my singing sea shanty Galleon the swine!

Ricky ye pirate

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by redpmg on 13/09/2021 17:29:55:

Supposedly a Van Der Decken who could not round the Cape – Cape of Storms or Cape Horn – (not sure which one) – presumably the Cape of Storms as the Dutch East Indiamen regularly did so . He was supposed to have cursed The Lord and because of it was then doomed to sail around the Cape forever .

Seem to remember reading somewhere a young English King to be sighted the Dutchman once in a Storm……….

Edited By redpmg on 13/09/2021 17:31:02

thanks for the infi redpmg …………..had always wondered what the story was. very interesting.

[Bob Abell 2Participant @bobabell2]

Nice model, Ashley

And built from the finest Hardboard in the land, I presume?

The Ravers look the Biz too

Bob

[Chris EParticipant @chrise]

Bushy P Bell

As usual something different. I don't doubt that the public like it which I suspect is at least partly to do with all the figures.

Do you own a plastic moulding company? I don't know the scale but there are a lot of them.

[harry smith 1Participant @harrysmith1]

Hi Ashley

Great model !!!

I can hear that AC DC music from down here in Tasmania !!!!

Harry

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Classic 70s 80s disco Harry!

Chris. There are 40 plus figures on there, all railway passenger types, originally unpainted plastic at 1/32 scale approx. They have been pinned and superglued n place.

They are not that expensive but you have to buy loads to get sufficient of the useable poses. A few inside have had their limbs repositioned, but the figures themselves are relatively crude and the repositioned limbs are not particularly anatomically satisfying!

However, it is the amount of bodies on the thing that makes it. I do have a few more to put on, they are wine glass markers, of about the same size, called “bosom buddies”. Make of that what you will….

The paddles rotate much faster than would be normal for a paddler (fake paddler really…it’s based on the Turks boatyard “Yarmouth belle” in Kingston upon Thames) as the boat needs go very slowly for effect and the paddles have to go round at these slow speeds to give the paddle look.

Ashley

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Ashley,

What did you use for the sound system ? She looks great

Regards Ray

[redpmgParticipant @redpmg]

Great Model Ashley – interesting as usual

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