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  • #38622
    Bob Abell 2
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      @bobabell2

      Sub stage completed……..Phew!

      I actually abandoned the project quite a few times during the planking stage, due to the frustration of setting the nails through the bamboo and into the formers………all covered in glue!

      With a box full of bent nails, I found the solution was to use a bigger hammer! Once the nail bites into the former, they are easily tapped in

      bow planking.jpg

      The bamboo goes round the bend quite easily, but getting the nails in, is quite a job at times and not for the feint hearted!

      five plank stage.jpg

      Completion of the first stage of planking. Next we turn the hull over and make a start on the bottom planks

      Bob

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      #38623
      Bob Abell 2
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        @bobabell2

        As a bit of lateral thinking, especially for Paul. …..lol

        Due to the painfully low speed of these ships, and looking at the clumsy shape of the bows, a simple oblong box shape may have been ok for this type of ship?

        Just think of the simplicity of construction…..and the cost….and the build speed!

        They could have been Medieval Liberty Ships of yesteryear!

        Just a thought ……..and how easy it would be for us modellers?

        Bob

        #38631
        Bob Abell 2
        Participant
          @bobabell2

          The bottom planks are quite easy to fit, but are a little uneven

          Filler should put things right, but I would like to know how the top layer of planks are fiited

          The Sovereign website seem to keep it a secret!

          bottom planks.jpg

          Bob

          #38712
          Bob Abell 2
          Participant
            @bobabell2

            Latest stage of the plank battle!

            I seem to have settled down to the routine of installing the planks and is quite enjoyable now!

            The trick is to cut the plank to length, mark the nail positions, make nail holes using a blunt bradawl, apply the glue, place plank in position, select an easy laying hole for the first nail, place the nail in the hole and press nail firmly…….Then finish off with the hammer

            Apply a gusset of glue at every corner and all the nooks and crannies

            plank battle.jpg

            Made a start with the P38 filler and rub down at my leisure

            Bob

            #38715
            Carl Walker
            Participant
              @carlwalker

              Hi Bob,

              Not sure itf it will be the same, but on the part-work "Victory", the top layer of planking was veneer! Paper thickness dark wood planks.

              Cheers

              Ricky

              #38718
              Bob Abell 2
              Participant
                @bobabell2

                Thank you Ricky

                I've got some of the final plank material, I was really wondering what type of finish the first planks will require prior to the paper thin veneer top coat, as there will be no further chance of sanding to shape

                I think it will need plenty of filler and elbow grease!

                Bob

                #38721
                Carl Walker
                Participant
                  @carlwalker

                  I think I remember on the Victory, it said something about using a small punch to make sure the brass nails were slightly below the surface of the first layer of planking, before sanding down and filling to smooth off. Heck of a job with all those nails

                  Cheers

                  Ricky

                  #39066
                  Bob Abell 2
                  Participant
                    @bobabell2

                    Thank you, Carl

                    The hull planking has taken a back seat at the moment according to the official instructions, and work is now on assembling a few cannons

                    Without having a crystal ball, I can't continue with the planking, as the stern has reached a critical stage and I'm now waiting to see how the planks finally end up.

                    I've made a start on the filler to level the hull profile as far as possible. This will need to be spot on!…..As the final veneer is wafer thin, with no scope for sanding

                    Would be helpful if they supply a few hull profile gauges?

                    Bob

                    #39077
                    Bob Abell 2
                    Participant
                      @bobabell2

                      The first four of one hundred guns!……….Although some are just barrels protruding

                      cannons-1k.jpg

                      A visit to SpecSavers was very necessary in order to make these little beauties!

                      Bob

                      #39111
                      Lord Havengotteny
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                        @lordhavengotteny

                        Hello Bob;

                        To which scale is this kit built? Will it be more than 24" lg. when completed?

                        Regards, Lord Havengotteny

                        #39112
                        Bob Abell 2
                        Participant
                          @bobabell2

                          Hello Lord H

                          The scale is 1 to 84 with an overall length of 110mm

                          A nice model to build, but the planking stage is very fiddly and not much fun at the moment

                          Only time will tell

                          Bob

                          #39141
                          Len Maylin
                          Participant
                            @lenmaylin47237

                            hello Bob

                            Just joined. I found your running commentay on the Royal Sovereign very very helpful. I have just subscribed and will get four issues per month by post. So no frustrating visits to Smiths.

                            I was told by a modelling club member that all wooden ships start to split in the dry home central heating envirement. Have you found this to be true…if so….what to do? Please do keep up the running commentary on the boat build.

                            Thanks,

                            Len.

                            #39143
                            Bob Abell 2
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                              @bobabell2

                              Hello Len

                              Welcome to the thread

                              Don`t understand your "splitting with central heating" query, if you are referring to the bamboo splitting, that`s no problem, as the hull is planked with an outer layer later

                              My advice to you at this early stage is to build, neatly, accurately and use an assembly jig to keep the hull straight as the build grows. The jig build appears about issue four, for some strange reason?

                              It`s a good idea starting the build now, as you can see what`s ahead of your build and avoid possible snags

                              Best of luck

                              Bob

                              #39145
                              Bob Abell 2
                              Participant
                                @bobabell2

                                Back on the planking again!

                                Still don`t know how the planks finish up at the stern end

                                planking again-1k.jpg

                                Newbie Len……..I hope you possess some planking skills, as this part of the build is quite difficult and would test the patience of Jobe!

                                Bob

                                #39146
                                Tony Hadley
                                Participant
                                  @tonyhadley

                                  Bob, the planking certainly looks tricky. Out of interest, what timber are the planks?

                                  Tony.

                                  #39147
                                  Bob Abell 2
                                  Participant
                                    @bobabell2

                                    Hello Tony

                                    The planks are made from Baboo! An unusual material to say the least and are about 4 x 1.5 mm section…..Not much scope for correcting lumps and bumps?

                                    I've made a start on the P38, but I'm beginning to spot a few undesirable areas that will need special attention later on!

                                    Bob

                                    #39360
                                    Bob Abell 2
                                    Participant
                                      @bobabell2

                                      Going round the bend…….In more ways than one!

                                      The hull planking is now levelling out at the stern, so now I can make some progress

                                      The little clamp is retaining the twist in the plank via the lacky band, while the glue sets

                                      torsion clamp.jpg

                                      The ends of the planks, looking like a dog`s dinner at the moment, will be levelled off shortly, Awaiting instructions

                                      The P38 makes a lot of dust……..I now use it with PVA, to fill the nooks and crannies……Can`t waste it

                                      Bob

                                      #39368
                                      Lord Havengotteny
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                                        @lordhavengotteny

                                        Hello Bob;

                                        I finally figured out the figures you noted a few days ago. If I use 110 cm. instead

                                        of mm, it would represent a prototype LOA of about 303 feet, which makes sense;

                                        giving a hull length of 225 feet. I'm looking forward to seeing the completed hull.

                                        Lord Havengotteny

                                        #39370
                                        Bob Abell 2
                                        Participant
                                          @bobabell2

                                          Hello Lordhaven'

                                          The overall length of the model is 1110mm and not 110mm……….Sorry about that

                                          Bob

                                          #39548
                                          Bob Abell 2
                                          Participant
                                            @bobabell2

                                            After about two months of fiddly tedious work, the bottom half of the hull is finally rough planked!

                                            Will need plenty of P38 to finish off prior to final planking with fine veneer

                                            I would guess, the planking stage sees off most budding modellers?………Me included……..almost!……..Several times in fact!

                                            Just grit yer teeth and gerron with it!………..Today`s motto

                                            hull planking.jpg

                                            Bob

                                            #39617
                                            Bob Abell 2
                                            Participant
                                              @bobabell2

                                              Next week, hopefully, we will be planking the top section.

                                              Made a temporary stand in anticipation…..

                                              stand.jpg

                                              Bob

                                              #39621
                                              Kimosubby Shipyards
                                              Participant
                                                @kimosubbyshipyards

                                                Bob,

                                                once Ashley sees that hull as a door knob like you've shown, he'll want one too!

                                                Kimmo

                                                #39622
                                                ashley needham
                                                Participant
                                                  @ashleyneedham69188

                                                  The mrs wouldnt let me put a door knob like that up I am afraid.

                                                  Bob. Good on yer, i suspect you are dead right and the planking would see off most budding builders!

                                                  AND you have to plank it again!! Its too much.

                                                  Paint it black and join the pirate fleet!

                                                  Ashley

                                                  #39624
                                                  Bob Abell 2
                                                  Participant
                                                    @bobabell2

                                                    What are you two on about?

                                                    What door knob?

                                                    Bob

                                                    #39633
                                                    Paul T
                                                    Participant
                                                      @pault84577

                                                      Bob

                                                      The children are referring to the kitchen unit door that forms the base of your new stand and how the model looks like an oversize handle.

                                                      Paul

                                                      (Ashley please note how I have resisted the knob related puns)

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