scroll or bandsaw:

[david siokesParticipant @davidsiokes45544]

which to buy

[david siokesParticipant @davidsiokes45544]

hi chaps , im new to this hobby but have plans id like to build and require a saw , have seen a home bench bandsaw at toolstation at £99 and a scroll saw for alittle more , which is best to get for cutting out parts ? thanks

[David Marks 2Participant @davidmarks2]

David – I have both types of machine but find I use the bandsaw far more often than the scroll saw. The scroll saw is much better suited to fine work on thinner material. Also, by drilling a pilot hole and inserting the blade through the hole you can also cut out internal shapes e.g. taking the centre out of a bulkhead. You cannot do that with a bandsaw, but a bandsaw will tackle thicker material. Suggest that you look at the specification for other machines as the info avail able from Toolstation is very limited.

You will find that most machinery of this type is now made in China and the same basic machine is marketed by a variety of suppliers although the machine(s) will be badged to suit the supplier. Aim to get a machine with the most powerful motor available and/or affordable.

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

There was a fairly extensive discussion of the respective merits (and indeed necessity — or not!) of band and scroll saws in the early parts of the Tiddler by Vic Smeed thread (**LINK**); my own contribution to that discussion was quite similar to what David Marks 1 just said, namely the following (I quote):

"I'd say that that depends on what one's priorities are.

A bandsaw has the disadvantage that it simply cannot be used to do internal cuts like cutting out the interior of a closed frame. Because the blade is a continous loop, you just cannot get it in there without at some place cutting through the periphery.

With a scroll saw this is not a problem: one just slacks off the blade tension, unhooks the blade at one end, threads it through an initial drilled or otherwise created hole, hooks it back up and retensions the blade.

On the other hand I have found it neigh on impossible to do a perfectly straight cut with my table top scroll saw: even with a guide for the workpiece, the blade is too flexible and it just won't cut dead straight. On that point the bandsaw is many times better, and with a bit of normal care makes it easy enough to do long, straight cuts.

As for curves, I find the bandsaw better for getting a nice, smooth and gradual curvature, whereas the scroll saw, with its much thinner blade, can make tighter turns.

When looking at these kinds of saw don't forget to take into account that they both suffer to some extent from throat issues. Not of the coughing kind, but they both have a limit as to which depth of workpiece will pass between the blade and the back pillar.

These two types of saw are thus not, I think, so much alternatives for each other as complimentary. What the one does very well the other does less well so, and vice versa.

Having both, I'd say that if I could have only one of them I would plump for the bandsaw, which I use much more than my scroll saw."

/Mattias

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

I too have both types and would heartily agree with every word that /Mattias has just written.

Dave M

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

As above. I have a two-wheel bandsaw from Machine mart, of 190mm throat capacity (on par for small machines) and it will take 1/4 inch deep blades, so you can get some reasonably tight curves with it.

​Ashley

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

I also have both types and would agree with Mattias.

[david siokesParticipant @davidsiokes45544]

Thank you gentlemen , think for now i will opt for bandsaw and hand cut any internal pieces with my fretsaw by hand this is a great site with some fantastic people whom are kind with their know how! many thanks

[Paul TParticipant @pault84577]

Hi David

You could invest in a cheap jigsaw to cut all of those awkward little corners.

There is one at Argos for £11.99

Edited By Paul T on 08/03/2016 16:47:05

[Mark Jarvis 2Participant @markjarvis2]

I agree with Paul T, i use a band saw and a jigsaw, the bandsaw for the major cuts and the jigsaw for the internal cuts, the benifit of the jigsaw is there are many sizes and shapes of blade available very easily, Poundshops, B&Q etc.

Mark

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Can a jigsaw replicate the 90 degree sort of turn performance of a scroll saw though?? I bought a scroll saw for doing windows and so on, I cant see a jigsaw doing the same??? Obviously if Paul T says "use a jigsaw" than who am I to disagree…but..
Ashley

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Ashley

I think there's a touch of 'semantic noise' here. Mattias' description of a jigsaw accords with mine i.e. a blade held at top and bottom and which has a flat plate on which the workpiece is held. Some people call this a scroll saw, while a jigsaw is the sort of thing which is pictured above. I have one of those too, but it's too powerful for use on thin ply and, as you say, nothing like as useful for sharp inside curves.

Dave M

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I have a 12v Minicraft hand held jigsaw….

Colin

[BanjomanParticipant @banjoman]

Dave M. is absolutely right – what I meant by "scroll saw" was the type of table top machine that he describes, i.e. more or less an electric fretsaw with a flat plate table on which the work piece is rested – **LINK**.

When I say jig saw on the other hand, I mean one of these: **LINK** ; also a power tool, but hand held, and not really suited for the more intricate work.

English not being my mother tongue, I would not like to try to say for sure, but I rather have the impression that there is some terminological confusion out there; that aside, however, I hope it is now more clear what sort of tool I was talking about in my previous post in this thread.

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