My son wants a lifeboat

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Hi people so my son wants to start model boating OK great I said what scale I say ….1/12th he says preferable a aurun class or whitby lifeboat…..bloody google he's been doing his homework..to be fair my fault as he's always loved the lifeboat ever since we look him to whitby .so if anyone wants a change or swap a 1/72 scale beautiful hms arrow let me know I'm in kent many thanks in advance ps my model will need new radio as was originally built in the 70s and is larger than a fleetscale a one off build 😀 many thanks Anthony hope you can help as don't want to discourage the lad .

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Would anybody consider a swap for a 1/12 scale lifeboat

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

hi Anthony, go on to this site on facebook and message a mate of mine, he tends to buy and sell model boats and might be abole to do a deal with you.

His name is Mike Davies, and the site is Model Lifeboats Enthusiasts

or he also frequents RNLI RC LIFEBOATS again on facebook whjen he is not tinkering with or riding his lambretta's

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

anthony, by whitby lifeboat, do you mean the older Mersey class lifeboat or the new Shannon class lifeboat.

[Mike PendleburyParticipant @mikependlebury45959]

Posted by neil howard-pritchard on 06/01/2023 22:04:29:

anthony, by whitby lifeboat, do you mean the older Mersey class lifeboat or the new Shannon class lifeboat.

Hi Neil, Whitby never had a Mersey mate. They currently have a Trent (George and Mary Webb 14-14) which is soon going to be replaced with a Shannon (it will be one of the 'Launch a Memory' Shannons).

They have had a Waveney (The White Rose of Yorkshire 44-012) and a Tyne (City of Sheffield 47-023) plus earlier Watsons etc

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

of course, mate………….i was thinking of Scarborough………………..silly me…..yes 14-14 and white rose was lady of lancashire's sister boat……[fleetwoods boat.

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Many thanks guys will ask a friend to take a look at his page ect as I'm not on Facebook as otherwise he will just have to wait as I don't have the room for a lifeboat and a frigate lol and to be honest I've explained to my son these things take time so hopefully fingers crossed 🤞 would do him some good to realise you just can't press a button and there it is lol cheers all again Anthony 

Edited By Anthony Stance on 07/01/2023 09:28:28

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Anthony Stance on 07/01/2023 09:01:23:

Many thanks guys will ask a friend to take a look at his page ect as I'm not on Facebook as otherwise he will just have to wait as I don't have the room for a lifeboat and a frigate lol and to be honest I've explained to my son these things take time so hopefully fingers crossed 🤞 would do him some good to realise you just can't press a button and there it is lol cheers all again Anthony

Edited By Anthony Stance on 07/01/2023 09:28:28

had a word with mike last night and he asked me to ask you whether he could buy the frigate from you as he doesn't have any lifeboats at the moment…if you send me a message with your email on [don't put your email address up on open forum as scammers pick them up easily] but via the forum messenger that is on here, i'll then email you with my email address……take a good few photos of the frigate and sent them with dims of the model to me with a price you want and i'll send them to him with a copy of the email to you too.

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

by the way, there is a fully built model of Whitby's current Trent lifeboat, 14-14 for sale on ebay for a reasonable price at the moment. but it is at 16th scale………….12th scale trents are fetching more than twice that price and rarer than rocking horse poo.

rc model lifeboat Slipway 1/16TH Trent | eBay

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Cheers Neil yeah I saw that one yesterday thing is my hms arrow is a fairly rare model too as she's not quite fleetscale about 9 inches longer at 72inches and 8inches wide so putting a prive evaluation is going to be hard hence why a swap was the route I was thinking one similar a fleetscale one went for 2k but I'm not an expert the model was given to me in part payment for some freelance work I did .thanks again Anthony

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

if it were mine i would be looking at 2k plus, as it really is a beautiful model…………..and didn't realise how long it is….stunning.

 

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 07/01/2023 18:54:38

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Hi Neil thank you for your kind words and advise many thanks again Anthony

[ashley needhamParticipant @ashleyneedham69188]

Could be a long sell, as the potential owner needs both the storage room and transport capacity!

There were no takers for the 6 foot Diamond, after several months, and that was offered free of charge.

But you never know!! Put an advert in the mag, for a start.

Ashley

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

True Ashley and as I've said I'm in no rush to sell her I'm in negotiations with my son on a smaller scale to start start so will probably keep her unless a suitable lifeboat comes up for him I always think this hobby isn't about how much something is worth more about the sense of achievement it gives you ect .that feeling of that's my model and I'm proud because just that she's mine !! So to be honest the money route isn't a rabbit hole I want to go down yet until I want a change .I sold my dragon ferry and have always regretted doing that so I won't be selling I think swapping with like minded people who love the hobby is best I'm sure your agree. Anthony

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

In fact if anyone has my dragon ferry I would be keen to know how she is lol is she in a model boat group ect or if anyone know where she ended up ? Might do a new thread 🤔 Anthony

[Ray Wood 3Participant @raywood3]

Hi Ashley,

It's a great shame Morton's started charging for what used to be the free adds in my view, your idea of an advert in the magazine would be great, There have been very few adverts placed in the magazine since it was re-introduced, as most models are in the £75 – £150 range the potential sellers are obviously put off by the fee.

That said, Lifeboat sales are an Enigma with such high values, but the kits & running gear were always were very expensive for the mouldings when they were commercially available.

Neil is the smartest guy on the forum, building sort after valuable models, but there are so many bits !!

Regards Ray

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Update my sons purchased a lifeboat from a member of a club but if anyone is interested my frigate is up on ebay for sale as I really now don't have the room for 2 large models and hey I guess the lad needs encouragement so mine has to find a bigger home .if interested just message me all the best Anthony will post pics of sons new project when done too 😊

[Richard SimpsonParticipant @richardsimpson88330]

Do you have a link to it Anthony, I couldn't find it.

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Hi Richard apologies no I didn't if you search rc model boats on ebay it should come up to be honest I took some advise from a local model builder the price i feel is  reflective of the rarity and quality I buy stuff on ebay rarely sell got  lots of lookers tho wich is encouraging all the best Richard kind regards Anthony

Edited By Anthony Stance on 13/01/2023 20:20:13

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

SO…..had my beautiful model on ebay a lovely chap from the British maritime museum in Greenwich called ,who I can verify as my freind goes drinking with him on a far to frequent basis at lunch time "liquid lunch "and suggested I remove this item ASAP as I've undersold it by some considerable amount !!! and perhaps ebay is not the correct place for my model on the plus side found room for my sons lifeboat!!!! At his girlfriends lol so for now my model is back on the shelf and I'm now going to add even more fine details .Will of course be sharing as I go !! All the best Anthony

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

If the model is really top quality you may be able to sell it via Charles Miller but that will of course incur auction costs.

**LINK**

Colin

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Many thanks Colin going to enjoy keeping her for a while now I think, now that room isn't an issue anymore and who knows she may even end up in Greenwich? All the best Anthony

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Posted by Colin Bishop on 17/01/2023 13:34:04:

If the model is really top quality you may be able to sell it via Charles Miller but that will of course incur auction costs.

**LINK**

Colin

From what I read these days, the seller is charged around 5% fee………..but the buyer is chaged up to 25 % of the purchase price, and that is putting many buyers off, thus reducing prices on "amature" builders models such as mine, yours and other hobbyists………the only models reaching high prices are the old builders models.

To be honest, when Charles Miller worked for Christies a lot more low and mid priced models were accepted for sale and sold, and I was selling at Christies 20 – 25 years ago………….those boats are no longer accepted,

For instance recently a model of S.S. Great Britain came on the market, and I was almost certain until I spoke to the builders son that it was William Mowoells model that he built on Model Boats in the 1980's, as it was just absolutely stunning………..that was not accepted by Miller's as the reason was that it at 82" long and in a glass mahogany case was far too big, and priced too high at £3000.00p.

Sadly  believe Charles Miller has become far too choosy for the good of modelling

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Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 20/01/2023 18:50:14

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

I think Neil has a point from what I have heard elsewhere.The top end of the market now seems to be exclusive to builder's models and items with some historical provenance. At the bottom end there is EBay where the rule of thumb seems to be that kit based models rarely fetch more than the price of the original kit, even if they are stuffed full of motors, speed controllers and batteries which probably cost as much again.

In the middle are the top quality models from amateur builders which often surpass what might be termed 'museum quality' but which tend to fetch disappointing prices.

The late Brian King's superlative models featured in a special auction some years back but the hammer prices were disappointing and didn't seem to reflect the quality of his work.

I suppose that's the market for you though.

Colin

[Anthony StanceParticipant @anthonystance12355]

Chaps you're so right unfortunately the model boat residuals are very low and don't factor time skill and above all the passion that this hobby has to offer shame but so true Ashley is in my mind  Always spot on in regards to his expertise …if you love and want something you will pay the money that you think the model is worth, unfortunately now with heavy heart my model in now on ebay as my sons partner doesn't want a huge bright orange lifeboat in there flat !!! So hopefully in my instance my beautiful model will sell on ebay, that said if a fellow enthusiasts on here wants her I would do a deal …anyway Onwards and upwards gang happy sailing in calm waters 

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