Model Boats Commemorative Issue

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Neil, WH Smith are the distributors and yes, the deliveries do seem to have been erratic. MHS are aware of the problem but it is by no means clear just what has been happening.

 

I’m afraid I can’t shed any more light on it than that.

 

Colin

[Colin BishopModerator @colinbishop34627]

Received from Dave Wooley:

 

Hi Colin If I may I would like to add some  foot notes  to what is a superbly produced  magazine. One of the most successful MAP plans in the 1970s was Phil Connolly’s all balsa Marksman design for fast electrics, a unique design that truly revolutionized performance electric model boating.

 Phil along with  Rod Burman and John Cundell had an enormous  influence on the development of Fast Electrics at the close of the 1960s and into the 1970s, not just in the UK but worldwide. Certainly the most successful teams from the UK in Naviga in that period were FE. Also and on the back of Naviga 75 was the series of Naviga/MPBA FE Internationals run at Redhouse Park Birmingham. These along with world FSR I/C multi boat racing at Thorpe park and Keighley, generated huge interest nationally and internationally. In fact the UK  model boating scene in those days was the most successful in Europe. The Redhouse series had competitors from 20 countries that returned year on year until the series ended in 1984 the likes of which have never been seen since.

 You made mention of Jim King. Without Jim’s guidance and his powers of persuasion I doubt if the UKs position, not just in competition, but at an organizational level would have developed quite as well as it did. I remember being invited by Naviga to sit on the Motors Commission in 1978-79 to help steer the new rules for FE multi racing through Naviga, bearing in mind that the fulcrum opinions as to how it was all going to work. Jim as a presidium member and later vice president of Naviga made it happen in spite of the difficulties on an international level .because he was a genuine statesman for Model Boating GB.  

 I’d also like to make mention of the long running series of Model Boat Conventions hosted by the then Ellesmere Port Boat Museum Trust in close cooperation with the MPBA, in the latter part of the 1980s and into the beginning of the 1990s. This was certainly the largest model boat event of its kind, incorporating both UK as well as Naviga scale events. On a personal note it was Vic Smeed as editor that published my very first article in Model Boats magazine all those years ago. I even had the privilege of collaborating with Vic on an FE design called Sniper 2 which went on to be quite successful on the competition scene. I think it’s always good to have a glance back because it is the past that makes the future possible. Once again Colin, thanks for producing what is an excellent magazine, perhaps we may see more of these types of specials in the near future.  

Dave Wooley

Edited By Colin Bishop, Website Editor on 22/05/2010 22:22:53

[Keith BlandParticipant @keithbland88192]

the commemorative issue is great, well done! I started having model maker with the april issue of 1957 it was the Magga Dan model which got my attention but was too young at the time to build one – I did have a go at Vic Smeed’s Bustler tug model though using a taycol star motor.

 

More to the point  have a comment on Glynn Guest’s revisit of moonmist. Glynn said he failed a suitable replacement for the Elmic Thrust-Pack. There are two possibles in the current Hobbies handbook (2010) the Robbe navy-compact geared drive system Ref. R4105  £29.99 or the gaupner Multi-speed 140 Ref. G1147 £17.99

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Mr Bland,

            Please read the Moonmist article.

It says ” …failed to locate any suitable replacement for the modest needs of this model.”

The ROBBE item you mention would be much too powerful.  The GRAUPNER item would not suffer from this failing but its short propeller shaft would make any sensible installation, without drastic alterations, impossible.

Glynn Guest

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

http://www.slecuk.com/catalogue/General-Accessories.html

Third item down. Would this perhaps do the job? I’d personally not use that horrible X-prop, though.

DM

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Now! Now! Glynn, don’t be so touchy….., Told you before,lol ….watch that blood preasure, matey!!

 

Keith was only making a valied point,( as is his right) and if he wants to use that type of motor and have a wake like an MTB….so be it, lol

 

Chillax!

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Mr Milbourn,

                   Please read the Moonmist article.

” those modellers who blissfully drop 540 motors into everything they build would have problems with this model…..”

The item you refer to is designed for such motors.  Whilst it is not impossible to install it in the Moonmist design, it is not to be recommended.  The 385 motor used in my model was a perfect and safe match for the Moonmist design.

Glynn Guest

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Mr Howard-Pritchard,

                                   Your concern for my health whilst a most Christian act, is misplaced.

Reference to your point about making a valied point, I guess you ment  “valid”.  I understand that valid means “capable of being justified”.  On this basis the original comments were not justifiable.

Had Mr Bland disgreed with my comments about the Moonmist design being unsuitable for 540 motors or wanted to alter it to match the Graupner unit, then it would have been a different matter.

Glynn Guest

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Hi  Glynn,

 

You don’t mind me calling you glynn do you, after all I only adress those people by surname that are my bosses or royalty???

 

Thankyou for pointing out that gramatical, and not spelling mistake…I meant to say Valued, but these old arthritic fingers of mine sometimes hit the wrong keys. Oh *&%* forgot to mention my dyslexia (think that’s how you spell it). Can’t all be perfect, old boy, can we?

 

One trait I find  immensely amusing in a person is pomposity and self proclaimed over exaggeration  of their own  importance.

 

Congratulations Glynn, you really made me laugh this morning. Turned an otherwise bad day, looking after my sick daughter into a reasonably  tolerable one, lol

Edited By neil howard-pritchard on 27/05/2010 12:35:09

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Mr Howard-Prichard,

                  I do not believe that we have ever met, as such it would be disrespect of me to be overly familiar in any correspondance.  This is the way I was brought up and would hope my children and grandchildren behave.

I too share your problems when writing and do wish this site had a spellcheck function.  This would save having to proof read everything carefully and keep reaching for the dictionary.

As for pomposity, ect……. It is hard for me to let people labour under a misapprehension.  Surely it is a good thing to identify errors, correct them and, perhaps most importantly, learn from them. 

Finally I am puzzled as to why you brought the sickness of your daughter into this thread?  I would mnever have dreamt of mentioning my sick and hospitalised father nor my equally sick mother-in-law.

Glynn Guest

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

Hi Glynn,

 

Surely you don’t for one moment think I was refering to yourself as being pompous…..perish the thought!.

 

As for my sick daughter……..i was just saying that your ramblings had cheered me up, as I had been having a stressfull morning.

Nothing more sinister.

Definately not out for sympathy.Heavans no!.

 

mind you, if you would wish to send her a get well card in your best Queen’s English, I could always PM  you my address.

Chin Chin

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Mr Howard-Prichard,

                                Do you really think it fit and proper for your daughter to recieve a “Get Well” card from a total stranger?

Glynn Guest

[Dave MilbournParticipant @davemilbourn48782]

Mr Guest

You know that I hang upon your every printed word , but I seem to recall a certain eminent designer of such models once waxing lyrical about using a reduced voltage when installing such motors.

Can’t quite remember his name…..lived near Stoke, I think.

Your humble servant

D C Milbourn

 

 

 

 

[neil hpParticipant @neilhp]

naahhh glynn……she would’t be bothered too much.

you know what they say, junk mail is better than no mail at all, lol

[paul orchardParticipant @paulorchard58688]

Dear Mr Guest,

 

I’m emailing to find out about the servo you used for the moon mist model you built from the vic smeed plan,

 

Because I’m having trouble finding the right one if you could let me have the servo number that would be a great help. because I’m going to build the same model and I’m not sure if I should use a mini servo.

[Glynn GuestParticipant @glynnguest59245]

Paul,

   I have to guess that you have the commemorative issue from which you are building the Moonmist model.  The construction article did explain that a standard size servo would not fit upright inside the hull and I used a slightly smaller one.

This was done to avoid having to turn the servo on its side and having the servo and tiller arms rotating in perpendicular planes.  This is a personal dislike of mine but, done with care to ensure a smooth and reliable link between the arms, it would work.

So, you could fit a standard size servo if you wanted to.

Alternatively, the model is in your hands, you can measure the space available and buy a servo that fits and matches the RC gear you plan to install.  A small low powered model such as Moonmist will not require much in the way of rudder servo torque, any miniservo ought to do.  Telling you the type of servo I used will not help as it is an old type, no longer available and its plug does not match any currently produced RC gear.

Glynn Guest

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